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Old 02-06-2011   #21
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Bah. According to the Kubiak lovers, there has been NO player who's
gone on to do ANYTHING significant once the Texans let him go. Smithiak
has the best eyes for talent than ANY front office in the NFL, dontyaknow?
You're making shit up. I challenge you to find any such statement, from any thread, from any time.

The argument is that no-one Kubiak inherited was worth a shit, minus Andre Johnson.

Kubiak brought in (& subsequently released) Tramon Williams after 31 other teams passed on him 7 times in the NFL draft.
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Ozzie Newsome cut James Harrison once. Heck, the Steelers cut James Harrison multiple times. It happens.

Is it possible Tramon Williams was a better, hungrier, smarter player when he got to Green Bay than when he was here?
It took him two and a half years to crack the starting lineup, three years to solidify himself as a permanent fixture.

I'd say the guy worked his ass off to prove he belonged in the league.
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I'm so tired of hearing aout how the Texans cut Williams.

Although I have no data to support it, I'm fairly confident that every team in the NFL has cut some one only to see them bloom on another team.

This team has bigger problems than "The Texans are so backwards, they would have been contenders with Tramon Williams had they not cut him".

I'm sure if he was playing CB for the 2010 Texans he wouldn't have played to the level he played on the Packers Defense this year, thats forsure.

Bush and Gibbs could have had Scrabble, Revis, and any choice of Safeties and still wouldn't have been able to get the pass defense in to the low 20's!!!!!

Cutting Tramon Williams was not what did in the 2010 Texans....
some how i have to strongly disagree with you, Good players can make bad coaches look good. Since Tony Dungy left the colts, they havent been the same, they have been good but thats cause they have such talent, is it the coach that makes them look so good ???? Probably not.
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32 teams passed on Tramon Williams in seven rounds of the draft, so yeah, even the Packers didn't see it in him for a couple years. Really, no one should be blaming the Texans for letting this guy go when they did.
Yeah, of all the things you CAN criticize them for, this is a very small thing.
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