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Old 04-10-2005   #1
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Default Full First round mock, plus Texans through 7

We did another draft late last night and I wanted to post the results. Let me know your opinions.

Round 1
1. San Francisco - Aaron Rodgers - QB - Cal
2. Miami - Carnell Williams - RB - Auburn
3. Cleveland - Derrick Johnson - OLB - Texas
4. Chicago - Ronnie Brown - RB - Auburn
5. Tampa Bay - Mike Williams - WR - USC
6. Tennessee - Antrel Rolle - CB - Miami
7. Minnesota - Braylon Edwards - WR - Michigan
8. Arizona - Cedric Benson - RB - Texas
9. *Cincinnati - Shawne Merriman - OLB - Maryland
10. Detroit - Adam Jones - CB - West Virginia
11. *Kansas City - Carlos Rogers - CB - Auburn
12. San Diego - Alex Barron - OT - Florida State
13. Houston - Troy Williamson - WR - South Carolina
14. Carolina - Thomas Davis - S - Georgia
15. Dallas - David Pollack - DE - Georgia
16. New Orleans - Alex Smith - QB - Utah
17. Washington - Marcus Spears - DE - LSU
18. Minnesota - Mark Clayton - WR - Oklahoma
19. St. Louis - Jamaal Brown - OT - Oklahoma
20. *Pittsburgh - Erasmus James - DE - Wisconsin
21. Jacksonville - Justin Miller - CB - Clemson
22. Baltimore - Travis Johnson - DT - Florida State
23. Seattle - Channing Crowder - LB - Florida
24. Green Bay - Heath Miller - TE - Virginia
25. Denver - Elton Brown - OG - Virginia
26. New York Jets - Khalif Barnes - OT - Washington
27. Atlanta - Shaun Cody - DT - USC
28. San Diego - Matt Roth - DE - Iowa
29. Indianapolis - Marlin Jackson - CB - Michigan
30. Dallas - Darryl Blackstock - OLB - Virginia
31. Philadelphia - Justin Tuck - DE - Notre Dame
32. *Houston - Demarcus Ware - LB/DE - Troy State
***TRADES***

Cincinnati trades #17, 2nd round pick (#48), and 5th round pick (#153) to the Redskins for #9 overall.

Kansas City trades #15, 4th round pick (#116), and 5th round pick (#150) to the Cowboys for #11 overall.

Pittsburgh trades #30, 3rd round pick (#93), and 4th round pick (#131) to the Cowboys for #20 overall.

Houston trades 2nd round pick (#47) and second 3rd round pick (#78) to New England for #32 overall.


Texans Draft
2. None, traded out.
3a. Corey Webster, CB, LSU
3b. None, traded out
4.Jason Brown, G/C, North Carolina
5.Bo Scaife TE Texas
6.Timmy Chang, QB, Hawaii
7. Maurice Clarrett, RB, The Ohio State University(sort of)
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I'd be extremely happy if it turns out that way.
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Very interesting mock, but I don't think Scaife is going to be a very good NFL tightend. He just doesn't have the size, and I feel that he'd be abused when asked to block. If I was looking for a TE around the 5th Round I'd have several other TEs ranked higher than him. Just to list a few: Joel Dreesen Colo. St., Billy Bajema Okla. St., Jerome Collins ND, Adam Bergen Lehigh, Victor Sessay Mizzou, Anthony Curtis Port. St., etc. Overall it looks good, and I'm sure you put a lot of time and effort into it. Nice job
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we need an offensive tackle somewhere in there
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I dont think we do Keyfro. Interior linemen are the biggest need and we got Jason Brown.

I like that mock... that is one draft where I would not be disappointed if we got Williamson in the first.
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we need an offensive tackle somewhere in there
I traded the second rounder and second third for a Playmaker like Ware. Thing is when you get to the third, the OT/interior lineman are not at starting level but a CB like Webster could be a nickle starter and slowl make hsi way into the lineup. When I got to the fourth, I thought that Brown would be a great value pick since he can play G or Center and can be a versatile pick.
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Very interesting mock, but I don't think Scaife is going to be a very good NFL tightend. He just doesn't have the size, and I feel that he'd be abused when asked to block. If I was looking for a TE around the 5th Round I'd have several other TEs ranked higher than him. Just to list a few: Joel Dreesen Colo. St., Billy Bajema Okla. St., Jerome Collins ND, Adam Bergen Lehigh, Victor Sessay Mizzou, Anthony Curtis Port. St., etc. Overall it looks good, and I'm sure you put a lot of time and effort into it. Nice job

Yeah, I agree with you. I thought about Scaife and thought he might get converted to a WR. Blocking is a trait that can be learned, plus he has a great pair of hands, so I figured he could be useful.
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I dont think we do Keyfro. Interior linemen are the biggest need and we got Jason Brown.

I like that mock... that is one draft where I would not be disappointed if we got Williamson in the first.
So if Wade or Wand were injured, you'd be comfortable with having either Garrick Jones or Chad Beasley starting?
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So if Wade or Wand were injured, you'd be comfortable with having either Garrick Jones or Chad Beasley starting?
Have you forgotten about Pitts & Wiegert?

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^^^^^Obviously....

Decent mock...I almost didn't see that Ware pick...I'd love that draft.

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Have you forgotten about Pitts & Wiegert?
When's the last time Wiegert played OT? If Pitts were to start at OT, that would mean we'd have to see Milford Brown on the field again, and that's an idea I'm not too keen on...
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Have you forgotten about Pitts & Wiegert?
Uhh that would mean putting pobably a much worse tackle to protect Carrs blind side as well as giving Brown(horrible in pass protection) at one of the Guard spots.
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2. None, traded out.
3a. Corey Webster, CB, LSU
3b. None, traded out
4.Jason Brown, G/C, North Carolina
5.Bo Scaife TE Texas
6.Timmy Chang, QB, Hawaii
7. Maurice Clarrett, RB, The Ohio State University(sort of)
Overall, I'd be pleased with this draft, but I would've taken Jerome Collins (5th round), Nehemiah Broughton (6th round), & the BPA (7th round) at the OL or DL positions (Larry Burt, Albert Means, Scott Young, Sam Mayes, etc.)

I doubt that Clarrett, will drop past the 5th round, & possibly the 4th. Also, with Ragone's respectable showing in the NFLE, I sure hope that CC doesn't use another pick on a QB this year.
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Uhh that would mean putting pobably a much worse tackle to protect Carrs blind side as well as giving Brown(horrible in pass protection) at one of the Guard spots.
So, you're saying that a rookie LT would be able to do better than Pitts, who has 3 years of NFL experience & played 2 years as a starting LT?

We,ve still got Todd Washington who can play LG & Weary should be much improved at the RG position. Add to that, if Jason Brown is able to hit the ground running, we could slide McKinney over to the LG position (his natural position). We've got other options. Besides, the odds of us losing both tackles is pretty low.
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Oh man, just say NO to Timmy Chang. I'd rather bring in Leaf, Couch or Akili Smith than draft Chang.
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Oh man, just say NO to Timmy Chang. I'd rather bring in Leaf, Couch or Akili Smith than draft Chang.
You might not like him, but I figured that there would be a QB taken. He did throw for a ton of yards, so maybe we can trade him for a 4th rounder next year?
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now I know its time for the REAL DRAFT this stuff is getting ridiculous

and why would the Vikings take two WR's with both 1st round picks?

the Texans trade up with NE & give up their 2nd & 3rd, not for Baas mind you but for a player that is similar to Peek, no wonder NE keeps winning Superbowl's
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You might not like him, but I figured that there would be a QB taken. He did throw for a ton of yards, so maybe we can trade him for a 4th rounder next year?
Chang threw for a bunch of yards in a wide open offense, which inflated his passing stats...If he gets drafted, it will be in the 7th and he'll likely struggle to stay on a team, much like former Texas Tech signal caller Kliff Kingsbury...
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Chang threw for a bunch of yards in a wide open offense, which inflated his passing stats...If he gets drafted, it will be in the 7th and he'll likely struggle to stay on a team, much like former Texas Tech signal caller Kliff Kingsbury...
Yes, you are right, but there is always some team out there who will give a chance to a guy who can throw for a bunch of yards. My point is that we know that the Texans will draft a QB for extra picks, so why not a guy who threw for a ton of yards. We could work with him for a year then pick up some picks down the line.

Just out of curiosity, and I am not saying they are similar, but didn't Alex Smith also come from a Wide open offense where he threw for a bunch of yards?
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hmmm Maurice Clarrett yeah i dont think that will happen, simply because he dont seem like the kinda guy who C.C and Capers would want on their team. No character and no class !
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