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CloakNNNdagger · 01-23-2011

Bud is trying to replace Al Davis in the history books. [From THE TENNESSEAN]

Titans have borrowed Raiders' off-field playbook

Thank heavens for the Oakland Raiders.

As long as Al Davis is alive and the Raiders remain in utter disarray, the Titans will not be the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL.

But based on what has happened over the past couple of years and particularly in the past few weeks, it's not for a lack of trying. The Titans are in the two-minute drill in an attempt to catch up — or down — to the Raiders.

Granted, there are differences. Since the two teams met in the AFC Championship game in 2002, Oakland is 37-91 and the Titans are 66-62. The Raiders have had six head coaches during that period, including new appointee Hue Jackson, while the Titans have stuck with Jeff Fisher.

But when it comes to strange behavior off the field, the Titans are closing on the Raiders — fast.

In short order, the Titans have filed divorce papers from their quarterback, retained a lame-duck head coach, shuffled the coaching staff and generally turned what was once a stable NFL franchise into a three-ring circus.

In the process, the Titans' image has taken a hit. When you step away and survey the scene from a distance, you see an aging owner firing one-gun salutes from his luxury suite, a defensive coordinator flipping off the refs, players accumulating penalties and fines, a relationship between a coach and quarterback that is straight out of a soap opera and a team that turns a 5-2 start into a 1-8 finish.

What is this, Oakland East?

Sure, a lot of NFL franchises walk on the wild side. What about the Jets? Their coach talks trash and fixates on feet. The players squawk constantly. So? If you make it to the AFC Championship game, nothing else matters.

If you win, you're colorful. If you lose, you're incompetent

It starts at the top. Davis has been running the Raiders into the ground for the past several years. His fingerprints are all over the organization's decline.

At least Crazy Al is willing to take some of the blame for his team's wayward performance. Last week, Davis told reporters:

"I have made mistakes, no question. You're saying, 'Should I take some of the blame?' I certainly do."

In contrast, Titans owner Bud Adams has yet to admit that his edict to draft Vince Young and his continued coddling of the quarterback were mistakes. To the contrary, he still makes it sound like Fisher and others should have figured out a way to make things work.

Meanwhile, Fisher has some explaining of his handling of the Chuck Cecil matter. Cecil signed a one-year contract extension in December. This came in a month when Cecil's defense gave up an average of 389.3 yards per game.

A month after extending his contract, Fisher called Cecil into his office and fired him. What gives? Did Fisher have an epiphany? Or did he give his friend and colleague a year's worth of salary to ease the blow of getting fired.

Whatever the case, it's a strange way to conduct business.

Sounds like the way the Raiders would handle things, doesn't it?

**Thorn** · 01-23-2011

It's always good to see a division rival in disarray. But it remains to be seen if the Texans can take advantage of it.

**Dutchrudder** · 01-23-2011

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Originally Posted by Thorn

It's always good to see a division rival in disarray. But it remains to be seen if the Texans can take advantage of it.

The Texans couldn't take advantage of a drunk high school slut on prom night, even if they had dads car, a nice hotel room, a bottle of champaign and Kenny G playing live music...

**Runner** · 01-23-2011

Three approaches:

1. Davis admits mistakes
2. Adams does not
3. McNair doubles down

Will any of them fix their repective problems?

**Runner** · 01-23-2011

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Ranger Tom · 01-23-2011

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Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

The Texans couldn't take advantage of a drunk high school slut on prom night, even if they had dads car, a nice hotel room, a bottle of champaign and Kenny G playing live music...

Wait--LIVE music? I think I'd want him out of the room.

Honoring Earl 34 · 01-23-2011

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Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

The Texans couldn't take advantage of a drunk high school slut on prom night, even if they had dads car, a nice hotel room, a bottle of champaign and Kenny G playing live music...

See Dutch ... we're looking for the guy you are describing . Our guy doesn't pop the cork , didn't wrinkle the sheets , Kenny G is the debil , and we took the hot n ready prom queen to Dairy Queen for a Snickers blizzard . Of course that blizzard ended up all over Daddy's car which got us grounded for a month . The sad part is everyone thought we were a player , that we could go all the way , that we could get to the end zone , but the drunken prom queen announced to the world that we wouldn't touch her cause we're scared .

**Thorn** · 01-23-2011

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Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

The Texans couldn't take advantage of a drunk high school slut on prom night, even if they had dads car, a nice hotel room, a bottle of champaign and Kenny G playing live music...

Hervoyel · 01-23-2011

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Originally Posted by Thorn

It's always good to see a division rival in disarray. But it remains to be seen if the Texans can take advantage of it.

The next time you see the Texans take advantage of an opponents mistakes will be the first time the Texans do it. If we'd been the team that drafted behind Minnesota when they couldn't get their pick in on time Bob would have sent a runner to them telling them that he understood how hard this stuff was and that if they needed a few more minutes we'd wait.

**Double Barrel** · 01-24-2011

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Originally Posted by Thorn

It's always good to see a division rival in disarray. But it remains to be seen if the Texans can take advantage of it.

yep, and since we're already on the right track, we just have to hope that they can get the train to leave the station this time.

Koolaid Time · 01-24-2011

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Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

The Texans couldn't take advantage of a drunk high school slut on prom night, even if they had dads car, a nice hotel room, a bottle of champaign and Kenny G playing live music...

Wait.... what ever happened to "Disco Biscuits"? You had that and you could play Ted Nugent CD's all night long, drive a rental from Enterprise and take your Prom Date to the Motel 6 in Channelview and still get lucky.

Koolaid Time · 01-24-2011

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Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34

See Dutch ... we're looking for the guy you are describing . Our guy doesn't pop the cork , didn't wrinkle the sheets , Kenny G is the debil , and we took the hot n ready prom queen to Dairy Queen for a Snickers blizzard . Of course that blizzard ended up all over Daddy's car which got us grounded for a month . The sad part is everyone thought we were a player , that we could go all the way , that we could get to the end zone , but the drunken prom queen announced to the world that we wouldn't touch her cause we're scared .

In 1978 I took my prom queen to Trader Vic's at the Shamrock after the Prom where she "drank a little bit too much" and blew all over herself and the passenger door of my car.

**Texan_Bill** · 01-25-2011

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The Titans: The New Raiders East

Does that make the Texans the New Saints (pre 1987)?

01-23-2011	#1
CloakNNNdagger Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,472 Rep Power: 43980	The Titans: The New Raiders East Bud is trying to replace Al Davis in the history books. [From THE TENNESSEAN] Titans have borrowed Raiders' off-field playbook Thank heavens for the Oakland Raiders. As long as Al Davis is alive and the Raiders remain in utter disarray, the Titans will not be the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL. But based on what has happened over the past couple of years and particularly in the past few weeks, it's not for a lack of trying. The Titans are in the two-minute drill in an attempt to catch up — or down — to the Raiders. Granted, there are differences. Since the two teams met in the AFC Championship game in 2002, Oakland is 37-91 and the Titans are 66-62. The Raiders have had six head coaches during that period, including new appointee Hue Jackson, while the Titans have stuck with Jeff Fisher. But when it comes to strange behavior off the field, the Titans are closing on the Raiders — fast. In short order, the Titans have filed divorce papers from their quarterback, retained a lame-duck head coach, shuffled the coaching staff and generally turned what was once a stable NFL franchise into a three-ring circus. In the process, the Titans' image has taken a hit. When you step away and survey the scene from a distance, you see an aging owner firing one-gun salutes from his luxury suite, a defensive coordinator flipping off the refs, players accumulating penalties and fines, a relationship between a coach and quarterback that is straight out of a soap opera and a team that turns a 5-2 start into a 1-8 finish. What is this, Oakland East? Sure, a lot of NFL franchises walk on the wild side. What about the Jets? Their coach talks trash and fixates on feet. The players squawk constantly. So? If you make it to the AFC Championship game, nothing else matters. If you win, you're colorful. If you lose, you're incompetent It starts at the top. Davis has been running the Raiders into the ground for the past several years. His fingerprints are all over the organization's decline. At least Crazy Al is willing to take some of the blame for his team's wayward performance. Last week, Davis told reporters: "I have made mistakes, no question. You're saying, 'Should I take some of the blame?' I certainly do." In contrast, Titans owner Bud Adams has yet to admit that his edict to draft Vince Young and his continued coddling of the quarterback were mistakes. To the contrary, he still makes it sound like Fisher and others should have figured out a way to make things work. Meanwhile, Fisher has some explaining of his handling of the Chuck Cecil matter. Cecil signed a one-year contract extension in December. This came in a month when Cecil's defense gave up an average of 389.3 yards per game. A month after extending his contract, Fisher called Cecil into his office and fired him. What gives? Did Fisher have an epiphany? Or did he give his friend and colleague a year's worth of salary to ease the blow of getting fired. Whatever the case, it's a strange way to conduct business. Sounds like the way the Raiders would handle things, doesn't it?

01-23-2011	#2
Thorn Dirty Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston Section: Restrained in the mental ward Age: 61 Posts: 18,193 Rep Power: 53970	Re: The Titans: The New Raiders East It's always good to see a division rival in disarray. But it remains to be seen if the Texans can take advantage of it. __________________ "Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." --- John Wayne

01-23-2011	#4
Runner Hubcap Diamond Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,436 Rep Power: 6068	Three approaches: 1. Davis admits mistakes 2. Adams does not 3. McNair doubles down Will any of them fix their repective problems? __________________ Amy glances out the window; her hair, skin, and clothes take on a pronounced reddish tinge from Doppler effect as she drops out of the conversation at relativistic velocity. - Cryptonomicon

01-23-2011	#5
Runner Hubcap Diamond Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,436 Rep Power: 6068	Edit __________________ Amy glances out the window; her hair, skin, and clothes take on a pronounced reddish tinge from Doppler effect as she drops out of the conversation at relativistic velocity. - Cryptonomicon

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