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Old 01-20-2011   #1
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If Peterson falls to pick #5 or so would you be willing to trade up to get him?

If the Texans were to trade up for Peterson and sign Bailey their secondary would be set for yrs.

CB Bailey,K.Jackson
S,Quin,Peterson

Trading up for Peterson would also give the Texans an elite KR/PR. Adding an elite CB/S and KR/PR would be killing 2 birds with one stone.

How much would you be willing to give up to get Peterson?
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It could probably be done for our 1st and 2nd. Yeah, I'd do it!
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I wouldn't give up a 2nd rounder to trade up 5 spots.
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I wouldn't give up a 2nd rounder to trade up 5 spots.
Thats what it would cost.

I wouldnt do it. This defensive overhaul needs all the high picks it can get its hands on. In fact they need to trade down and pick up a 2nd this year.
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Default Re: Trade ?

No I don't think I would trade up.

I don't like it unless your pretty well set and are looking for a luxury/over the top pick.

We need all the players we can get.
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Thats what it would cost.

I wouldnt do it. This defensive overhaul needs all the high picks it can get its hands on. In fact they need to trade down and pick up a 2nd this year.
this is exactly my thought too. not only NO, HELL NO!
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If you truly thought he was a franchise type player you wouldn't do it? What about this years first and next years second?
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If you truly thought he was a franchise type player you wouldn't do it? What about this years first and next years second?
long as we're fantasying I would trade our first not once but twice for three second round picks, that would give Wade & Co. four players who could wind up starting in a re-vamped 3-4
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long as we're fantasying I would trade our first not once but twice for three second round picks, that would give Wade & Co. four players who could wind up starting in a re-vamped 3-4
But you wouldn't move up even if you thought Peterson was a Ed Reed type player?
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Default Re: Trade ?

This draft just has so much defensive talent with all the underclassmen declaring. We could be getting a "1st round grade" type of guy with our 2nd rounder. Our 2nd IMO is worth more this year because of the talent than most other years.

I guess it really depends what our Decision Makers think of the crop of guys ranging from #5-11ish. If they see some special special talents that will likely be available at #11 then I do not make the trade. If they don't think anyone other than Peterson would even be worth the #11 then I'd consider the trade.

That is, they better believe Peterson is the next Troy Polalmalu that can also return kicks/punts if they trade up.


There's just too many unknowns. Would you guys rather have "Troy Polamalu" and no 2nd round pick or "Clay Matthews" and still have our 2nd rounder? The point is, if the Texans think they will be getting a special talent at #11 then the trade won't happen.
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Throw in Owen Daniels to sweeten the deal.
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But you wouldn't move up even if you thought Peterson was a Ed Reed type player?
I don't believe enough in the Texans current front 7 transitioning to a 3-4 to do it, now if Texans had not flopped or performed so badly this past season & stayed with a 4-3 then I would consider it. But that time has come & gone we now have three glaring needs beside secondary, OLB, NT & 3-4 DE.
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But you wouldn't move up even if you thought Peterson was a Ed Reed type player?
I get what you are saying, but even Ed Reed wasnt drafted until #24. You are putting alot of eggs into one basket, and if it doesnt pan out that is ALOT of extra money you are talking about.

#5 Eric Berry - Signed a five-year, $60 million contract. The deal contains $34 million guaranteed.

#11 Anthony Davis - Signed a five-year, $26.5 million contract. The deal contains $15.954 million guaranteed.

The Texans didnt trade up to #5 for Sean Taylor. I doubt they trade up for Peterson.
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I wouldn't give up a 2nd rounder to trade up 5 spots.
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Thats what it would cost.

I wouldnt do it. This defensive overhaul needs all the high picks it can get its hands on. In fact they need to trade down and pick up a 2nd this year.
This defense needs players, Peterson is a great player. Having Bailey and Peterson would give the Texans the best set of CB's they have ever had. It would also help Quins game alot.

If you hated the Texans secondary last yr you should be for this trade.

Sure they need a NT/LB/S/DE., but you can find a NT in the 3rd (Fua,Ellis,Carter,Parker etc...) should be available. If you think you need a LB then trade OkOye and your 4th rd pick to move up to the 3rd rd (Moch,Herzlich,Wright,B.Carter,Foster etc....) should be available.

Then from the 5th rd on you go BPA and hope you hit on a guy or 2.

The Texans should be very aggressive in this yrs draft. Most all of the holes on defense can be filled in this draft. With a little bit of supplement in F.A.

With Smith and Gary's draft record give me the sure thing (Peterson) over what may or may not be there at #11 and a 2nd rd pick. The sad part is this would all be a moot point if the Texans hadn't wom a meaningless game against Jacksonville. (Kubiak's specialty)


The Texans can have a really good young defense if they are willing to spend draft capital/$$$$ to fix it.

History says they wont be willing. But maybe Phillips influence may change the business as usual attitude of the Texans FO. I have my doubts.

For gods sake Kubiak atleast show up to the combine this yr. Even if you pull a Sherman and sleep through it.
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I get what you are saying, but even Ed Reed wasnt drafted until #24. You are putting alot of eggs into one basket, and if it doesnt pan out that is ALOT of extra money you are talking about.

#5 Eric Berry - Signed a five-year, $60 million contract. The deal contains $34 million guaranteed.

#11 Anthony Davis - Signed a five-year, $26.5 million contract. The deal contains $15.954 million guaranteed.

The Texans didnt trade up to #5 for Sean Taylor. I doubt they trade up for Peterson.
They should trade up.

This is the reason they wont trade up.

BTW, didn't the Packers trade back into the 1st rd to take Matthews? I believe they had to pay Raji and Matthews 1st rd $$$$ that yr. Didn't the Steelers trade up to pick Polalmalu? The Jets traded for Holmes/Edwards/Cromartie and signed LT,Taylor,Pool in FA. The Bears traded a kings ransom for Cutler and did the same for Peppers in FA.

Now their teams are on the brink of a SB appearences. Motto of the story is you gotta pay to play. If your #1 goal is winning.

Tell me again what did the Texans do in player personel.
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Too expensive, imo.
This seems to be the theme of the Texans organization.
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They should trade up.

This is the reason they wont trade up.

BTW, didn't the Packers trade back into the 1st rd to take Matthews? I believe they had to pay Raji and Matthews 1st rd $$$$ that yr. Didn't the Steelers trade up to pick Polalmalu? The Jets traded for Holmes/Edwards/Cromartie and signed LT,Taylor,Pool in FA. The Bears traded a kings ransom for Cutler and did the same for Peppers in FA.

Now their teams are on the brink of a SB appearences. Motto of the story is you gotta pay to play. If your #1 goal is winning.

Tell me again what did the Texans do in player personel.

Yeah, I think if they were ever going to make a move, this is the year if they think that Peterson is that player. And there appears to be a lot of people that do think he is that player to build your secondary around.
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I get what you are saying, but even Ed Reed wasnt drafted until #24. You are putting alot of eggs into one basket, and if it doesnt pan out that is ALOT of extra money you are talking about.

#5 Eric Berry - Signed a five-year, $60 million contract. The deal contains $34 million guaranteed.

#11 Anthony Davis - Signed a five-year, $26.5 million contract. The deal contains $15.954 million guaranteed.

The Texans didnt trade up to #5 for Sean Taylor. I doubt they trade up for Peterson.
The 2011 draft signings will be subject to the new CBA rules. So if rookie payscales are put into place, then all of these players will have no leverage to negotiate any outrageous deals.
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The OP asks what we would be willing to give up to get him. And my answer was nada. It appears that yall would give up alot.

We dont have to agree on everything here.
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