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DX-TEX · 01-14-2011

The Pencil Neck · 01-14-2011

This was already posted in another thread.

HouSportsWriter · 01-14-2011

go texans!

jaayteetx · 01-14-2011

Hey, we're on the right track. Why you such a debbie downer?

Dread-Head · 01-14-2011

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HJam72 · 01-14-2011

So?

Kubiak is no good???

Dang!!!

Ole Miss Texan · 01-14-2011

Actually our average 1st round pick is 14.4 not 12.6

2006 #1 pick was a result of Capers coaching, not Kubiak.

Kubiak's 5 seasons as HC have given us:
2007 - #8 (#10 was a result of the Matt Schaub trade)
2008 - #18 (#26 was a result of the Baltimore trade)
2009 - #15
2010 - #20
2011 - #11

But I think that's just trying to determine which turd smells better.

**ChampionTexan** · 01-14-2011

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Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

Actually our average 1st round pick is 14.4 not 12.6

2006 #1 pick was a result of Capers coaching, not Kubiak.

Kubiak's 5 seasons as HC have given us:
2007 - #8 (#10 was a result of the Matt Schaub trade)
2008 - #18 (#26 was a result of the Baltimore trade)
2009 - #15
2010 - #20
2011 - #11

But I think that's just trying to determine which turd smells better.

Plus his winning percentage is better than Chan Gailey, Jim Schwartz, Steve Spagnolo, Todd Haley, and since they are all currently .000, every first-time HC that's been hired since the end of the regular season.

Mr. White · 01-14-2011

It's a great graphic and the guy's stating facts.

I don't see what's wrong with it unless you don't like his facts.

Ole Miss Texan · 01-14-2011

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Originally Posted by Mr. White

It's a great graphic and the guy's stating facts.

I don't see what's wrong with it unless you don't like his facts.

Except that one of his "facts" seems to be inconsistent with reality.

**HoustonFrog** · 01-14-2011

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Originally Posted by ChampionTexan

Plus his winning percentage is better than Chan Gailey, Jim Schwartz, Steve Spagnolo, Todd Haley, and since they are all currently .000, every first-time HC that's been hired since the end of the regular season.

Though Gailey is a former HC that won....

Dallas--18-14 with 2 playoff appearances

**ChampionTexan** · 01-14-2011

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Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

Though Gailey is a former HC that won....

Dallas--18-14 with 2 playoff appearances

You are accurate (and so am I).

Mr. White · 01-14-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

Except that one of his "facts" seems to be inconsistent with reality.

Are you talking about this one?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

Actually our average 1st round pick is 14.4 not 12.6

I got 12.9 for the history of the franchise. He's off by .3 according to my math. It doesn't say "Draft picks under Kubiak."

It doesn't invalidate the graphic just because one hair didn't get split in 2 equal halves.

Ole Miss Texan · 01-14-2011

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Originally Posted by Mr. White

Are you talking about this one?

I got 12.9 for the history of the franchise. He's off by .3 according to my math. It doesn't say "Draft picks under Kubiak."

It doesn't invalidate the graphic just because one hair didn't get split in 2 equal halves.

1. I actually like the graphic, I'm not downplaying it. I think the guy brought up some staggering graphics and I think he did a great job.

2. This is "Kubiak by the Numbers" so that's implying all figures are during the Kubiak-era and not for the life of the franchise.

3. There are plenty of different ways to calculate figures and that's why stats, rankings, percentages, etc can be very misleading even though all could be true and factual.

2006 - #1 Pick
2007 - #8 Pick
2008 - #18 Pick
2009 - #15 Pick
2010 - #20 Pick
2011 - #11 Pick

The above starting draft slot is what Kubiak had, that is, what selection we had after the prior season. That's actually 12.167.
2007 we moved down to #10 as a part of the Schaub trade.
2008 we moved down to #26 as part of the Baltimore Flacco/Brown trade.

Again I like the graphic but I often like to check people's work for accuracy and not take anything for granted.

**HoustonFrog** · 01-14-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChampionTexan

You are accurate (and so am I).

Exactly, just wanted to throw it out there.

GP · 01-14-2011

I am not posting in this thread. But you know my presence looms over it.

**Playoffs** · 01-14-2011

Carr Bombed · 01-14-2011

This makes a fantastic wallpaper, thanks

steelbtexan · 01-14-2011

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Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

This was already posted in another thread.

What thread?

The only stats that matter are %-7 four yrs in a row. One 9-7 season in 5 yrs.

0 playoff appearences

0 Super Bowl wins.

The Pencil Neck · 01-14-2011

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Originally Posted by steelbtexan

What thread?

The only stats that matter are %-7 four yrs in a row. One 9-7 season in 5 yrs.

0 playoff appearences

0 Super Bowl wins.

Here.

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