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Old 01-13-2011   #1
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Never heard of him...
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Default Re: Texans hire Vance Joseph as DB coach

SF had a pretty solid D

Not much out there on the guy, but can't be any worse than we had...can it?

Pretty shitty Dallas denied us permission and we are offering up Dennison to Denver, are we being too nice or is Dallas just being a POS?
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Default Re: Texans hire Vance Joseph as DB coach

SF has had one of the slowest secondaries in the league the past few years... I think he's gotten a lot out of not much. He'll have more speed and youth to work with here.
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Default Re: Texans hire Vance Joseph as DB coach

Of course no one knows him.

He's not some coach's son who got the job because his pops was on the staff...

Yeah, you David Gibbs.
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Default Re: Texans hire Vance Joseph as DB coach

Vince Joseph's Tenure in San Fran:

49ers Pass D Ranks:

2005 - 32nd
2006 - 26th
2007 - 22nd
2008 - 20th
2009 - 21st
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Of course no one knows him.

He's not some coach's son who got the job because his pops was on the staff...

Yeah, you David Gibbs.
He did go to Colorado.
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Vince Joseph's Tenure in San Fran:

49ers Pass D Ranks:

2005 - 32nd
2006 - 26th
2007 - 22nd
2008 - 20th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 24th
Alright! Big move by your, Hoooustooon Texans!

Seriously. Moving from 32 to 24 would be great.
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Pretty shitty Dallas denied us permission and we are offering up Dennison to Denver, are we being too nice or is Dallas just being a POS?
If we were offering Dennison up for a lateral move, I'd agree... but he's looking to get promoted. I don't think we could have stopped it if we wanted to.

Herring wouldn't be getting a promotion. It would be a lateral move.
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Vince Joseph's Tenure in San Fran:

49ers Pass D Ranks:

2005 - 32nd
2006 - 26th
2007 - 22nd
2008 - 20th
2009 - 21st
2010 - 24th
Pass D has a lot more to do with a lot of things other than the DBs......
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Default Re: Texans hire Vance Joseph as DB coach

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SF had a pretty solid D

Not much out there on the guy, but can't be any worse than we had...can it?

Pretty shitty Dallas denied us permission and we are offering up Dennison to Denver, are we being too nice or is Dallas just being a POS?
It's common courtesy that you allow an assistant to interview for a higher position (Head Coach), whereas the Dallas assistant would have been named to the same position.
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Default Re: Texans hire Vance Joseph as DB coach

Can he teach guys not to fall down?
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It's common courtesy that you allow an assistant to interview for a higher position (Head Coach), whereas the Dallas assistant would have been named to the same position.
Not only that but their coach is under contract still and they haven't named a D Coordinator so they are making sure everything is in order.

Never heard of this guy...thought he played in COLORADO in college.
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Never heard of this guy...thought he played in COLORADO in college.
Seriously? LOL. Man, comedy can't be written any better than real life.

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^^^Looks like BorrowMe posted it but...

SF pass defense(rank and pass y/g)

2005(32nd-276.7 y/g)
(Secondary: B.J. Tucker, Bruce Thornton(starter), Jeremy Thornburg, Shawntae Spencer(starter), Mike Rumph, Kris Richard, Ahmed Plummer, Tony Parrish(starter), Willie Middlebrooks, Keith Lewis, Derrick Johnson(starter), Ben Emanuel(starter), Dwaine Carpenter, Marques Anderson, Mike Adams(starter))

(D-line: Corey Smith, Marques Douglas(starter), Andre Carter, Isaac Sopoaga, Ronald Fields, Bryant Young(starter), Travis Hall, Anthony Adams(starter))

2006(26th-223.2 y/g)
(Secondary: Chad Williams, B.J. Tucker, Donald Strickland, Shawntae Spencer(starter), Mark Roman(starter), Tony Parrish(starter), Keith Lewis(starter), Marcus Hudson, Walt Harris(starter), Sammy Davis, Deke Cooper, Mike Adams(starter))

(D-line: Melvin Oliver(starter), Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson, Marques Douglas(starter), Isaac Sopoaga, Ronald Fields(starter), Damane Duckett, Bryant Young(starter), Anthony Adams(starter))

2007(22nd-227.7 y/g)
(Secondary: Donald Strickland, Shawntae Spencer, Mark Roman(starter), Michael Lewis(starter), Keith Lewis, Marcus Hudson, Walt Harris(starter), Dashon Goldson, Nate Clements(starter), Tarrell Brown)

(D-line: Ray McDonald, Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson, Marques Douglas(starter), Isaac Sopoaga(starter), Aubrayo Franklin(starter), Ronald Fields, Bryant Young(starter))

2008(20th-219.2 y/g)
(Secondary: Donald Strickland, Shawntae Spencer, Reggie Smith, Allen Rossum, Mark Roman(starter), Michael Lewis(starter), Keith Lewis, Marcus Hudson, Walt Harris(starter), Dashon Goldson, Nate Clements(starter), Tarrell Brown)

(D-line: Justin Smith(starter), Ray McDonald(starter), Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson, Isaac Sopoaga(starter), Aubrayo Franklin(starter), Ronald Fields, Kentwan Balmer)

2009(21st-229.4 y/g)
(Secondary: Curtis Taylor, Shawntae Spencer(starter), Reggie Smith, Keith Smith, Allen Rossum, Mark Roman, Michael Lewis(starter), Marcus Hudson, Dashon Goldson(starter), Nate Clements(starter), Tarrell Brown, Dre Bly(starter))

(D-line: Justin Smith(starter), Ray McDonald, Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson, Demetric Evans, Isaac Sopoaga(starter), Ricky Jean-Francois, Aubrayo Franklin(starter), Kentwan Balmer)

2010(24th-231.1 y/g)
(Secondary: Tramaine Brock, Phillip Adams, Curtis Taylor, C.J. Spillman, Shawntae Spencer, Reggie Smith, Will Peterson, Taylor Mays, Chris Maragos, Michael Lewis, Dashon Goldson, Nate Clements, Tarrell Brown)

(D-line: Justin Smith, Ray McDonald, Manny Lawson, Travis LaBoy, Parys Haralson, Thaddeus Gibson, Demetric Evans, Isaac Sopoaga, Ricky Jean-Francois, Aubrayo Franklin)
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Default Re: Texans hire Vance Joseph as DB coach

Any chance this guy played TE in his playing days? You know .... just for the symmetry of it all.
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Default Re: Texans hire Vance Joseph as DB coach

So basically, the last time this guy inherited a 32nd ranked pass defense, he turned it into the 26th ranked pass defense?

And that is in the NFC West, a perenially awful division.

I fear for our Texans next year.
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