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Old 01-06-2011   #1
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Damn...

That might suck for us...

Good players just moved up a slot...
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Good for him. It's nice seeing a player not out for the money every once in a while. With Harbaugh likely leaving it's doubtful the Cardinal will be as good. A rookie pay scale will probably be in place when he comes out too.
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Carolina Announces they will pick Luck with the first pick if he declares for the draft...

Luck decides to stay at Stanfod. Insert Facepalm here.
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WOW, worst QB class EVER.

Feel sorry for all those teams desperately needing a QB.

Kolb and Young's trade value just went up.
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I wonder how much Stanford is paying him. :P
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Smart move.
VERY bad move if you ask me. Look at Jake Locker last year. He was in the running for a top 5 pick. Instead he went back to school and is now looking like a late first early 2nd rounder. That means a loss of MILLIONS of dollars. Without Harbaugh(if he leaves) the offense may change and Luck's numbers may decrease.

If you are the #1 pick in the draft you MUST go. If you want to finish school and get your degree, great, you can do it in the offseason, just like Vonta Leach did.

A VERY bad decision in my mind.
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Good for him. It's nice seeing a player not out for the money every once in a while. With Harbaugh likely leaving it's doubtful the Cardinal will be as good. A rookie pay scale will probably be in place when he comes out too.
That's why its a bad decision.
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VERY bad move if you ask me. Look at Jake Locker last year. He was in the running for a top 5 pick. Instead he went back to school and is now looking like a late first early 2nd rounder. That means a loss of MILLIONS of dollars. Without Harbaugh(if he leaves) the offense may change and Luck's numbers may decrease.

If you are the #1 pick in the draft you MUST go. If you want to finish school and get your degree, great, you can do it in the offseason, just like Vonta Leach did.

A VERY bad decision in my mind.
makes Jake possibly the 1st QB taken afterall
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VERY bad move if you ask me. Look at Jake Locker last year. He was in the running for a top 5 pick. Instead he went back to school and is now looking like a late first early 2nd rounder. That means a loss of MILLIONS of dollars. Without Harbaugh(if he leaves) the offense may change and Luck's numbers may decrease.

If you are the #1 pick in the draft you MUST go. If you want to finish school and get your degree, great, you can do it in the offseason, just like Vonta Leach did.

A VERY bad decision in my mind.
Gonna have to agree here...

If you are the top pick in the draft then you are most likely going to a bad team...That's not a good reason to stay in school...
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VERY bad move if you ask me. Look at Jake Locker last year. He was in the running for a top 5 pick. Instead he went back to school and is now looking like a late first early 2nd rounder. That means a loss of MILLIONS of dollars. Without Harbaugh(if he leaves) the offense may change and Luck's numbers may decrease.

If you are the #1 pick in the draft you MUST go. If you want to finish school and get your degree, great, you can do it in the offseason, just like Vonta Leach did.

A VERY bad decision in my mind.
On one hand, these types of decisions have worked out poorly in the past. You mention Locker, and two other prominent examples of a decision like this backfiring (from a monetary/business standpoint) would be Matt Leinart and Dave Ragone.

On the other hand, from everything I hear (at least from sources I trust), Andrew Luck is the real deal, and shouldn't have to worry about "being exposed" by coming back for another year. It did after all work out okay for Sam Bradford, and I believe that as good as Bradford is - or looks like he will be, Luck's still a better prospect than he was and is.

Don't know if this says anything about Harbaugh's likelihood of taking the Dolphins (or some other NFL) job, but even if he leaves, I would think that Stanford would put maximizing Andrew Luck's impact on the W-L record as the first and foremost quality they'd be looking for in a new HC.
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On one hand, these types of decisions have worked out poorly in the past. You mention Locker, and two other prominent examples of a decision like this backfiring (from a monetary/business standpoint) would be Matt Leinart and Dave Ragone.

On the other hand, from everything I hear (at least from sources I trust), Andrew Luck is the real deal, and shouldn't have to worry about "being exposed" by coming back for another year. It did after all work out okay for Sam Bradford, and I believe that as good as Bradford is - or looks like he will be, Luck's still a better prospect than he was and is.

Don't know if this says anything about Harbaugh's likelihood of taking the Dolphins (or some other NFL) job, but even if he leaves, I would think that Stanford would put maximizing Andrew Luck's impact on the W-L record as the first and foremost quality they'd be looking for in a new HC.
And Sam Bradford was injured in his last season in college. Sure, it worked out for him. But football is a violent game and injuries can happen at any time. Its better to sustain an injury when you are being paid millions than in college not getting paid millions.
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makes Jake possibly the 1st QB taken afterall
Possibly, but I don't see him as #1 overall or even a top 20 player. I think the first QB now taken is Newton followed by Mallet, and then the surging Gabbert.
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Interesting. I understand his decision... especially considering he's getting a Stanford degree. However, I think it's a bad move on his part. $60 Million guaranteed.
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Interesting. I understand his decision... especially considering he's getting a Stanford degree. However, I think it's a bad move on his part. $60 Million guaranteed.
His dad was huge in decision process I'm sure he wanted Andrew to get his degree first. I'm going to enjoy watching him play next year @ Stanford
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Good call andrew. I hate gobs and gobs of money too.

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If all you care about is the cash, then yeah, it may be the wrong decision.
However, the kid is going to graduate with a degree from Stanford and if there is an NFL lockout, he's going to look very smart. If there isn't a lockout, one of the big changes is probably a rookie wage scale and it will probably be implemented this year, which means he'd still be under it if he declares.

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Stanford degree plus possible lower draft slot > No degree with a possible (probable?) NFL lockout.
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If all you care about is the cash, then yeah, it may be the wrong decision.
However, the kid is going to graduate with a degree from Stanford and if there is an NFL lockout, he's going to look very smart. If there isn't a lockout, one of the big changes is probably a rookie wage scale and it will probably be implemented this year, which means he'd still be under it if he declares.

So IMO....
Stanford degree plus possible lower draft slot > No degree with a possible (probable?) NFL lockout.
If he declared and there was a lock out why wouldn't he be able to finish school anyways?

Whats wrong with being a millionaire AND taking classes and getting your degree from Stanford???
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