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Old 01-06-2011   #41
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I'd rather have both , but if I had to settle on one or the other , give me the FS.
I think this DL is servicable with Shaun Cody at the NT , 0k0ye and Antonio Smith at the ends with MW and Barwin as your OLB's. If Ryans comes back 100% your front 7 is set with he and Cushing in the middle.

A healthy Barwin allows them to do a lot of things due to his unique abilities. He (and MW) are athletic enough to cover TE's , RB's in the flats and we all know both can get to the passer.
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I don't see the Texans taking a CB or a FS in the first round unless one of Akumara (Is that how you spell his name? ****ing Nebraska I swear) or Peterson is still there at the 11. There are no Eric Berry's or Earl Thomas's in this draft, and my guess is that with all the change in the front 7 on defense, that is where the first pick will go.

Would be thrilled to get Fairley but that dude has been and will be a top 5 pick. We could've had a decent shot at him if we didn't decide to WIN ONE FOR THE ****ING GIPPER LAST SUNDAY YOU ***** TEXANS GODDAMNIT.
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Wilfork's played all along the line (except DE, obviously) in the Pats hybrid. He actually kicked more ass playing the typical 4-3 DT position.
As did the Ravens Ngata who was drafted to play nose-T but these days spends more time at DE. But I still think of both them as NTs because of their size but with the versitility to play other positions because of their athleticism.
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I don't see the Texans taking a CB or a FS in the first round unless one of Akumara (Is that how you spell his name? ****ing Nebraska I swear) or Peterson is still there at the 11. There are no Eric Berry's or Earl Thomas's in this draft, and my guess is that with all the change in the front 7 on defense, that is where the first pick will go.

Would be thrilled to get Fairley but that dude has been and will be a top 5 pick. We could've had a decent shot at him if we didn't decide to WIN ONE FOR THE ****ING GIPPER LAST SUNDAY YOU ***** TEXANS GODDAMNIT.
They could always move up ..... or down.


Its painfully obvious to anyone who has watched the Texans over the years , they have never really had any talent at the FS spot. If they can move down and still get the best FS prospect on the board while aquiring extra picks , I'd do it.
Pollard along with a guy on the opposite side who's skills offset his would be real nice to have - Pending Pollard returns.

If a team picking ahead of the Texans happens to be looking at a QB other than Andrew Luck , they'd likely be willing to move down. I just dont see another QB worth taking in the top 15 picks.
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They could always move up ..... or down.


Its painfully obvious to anyone who has watched the Texans over the years , they have never really had any talent at the FS spot. If they can move down and still get the best FS prospect on the board while aquiring extra picks , I'd do it.
Pollard along with a guy on the opposite side who's skills offset his would be real nice to have - Pending Pollard returns.

If a team picking ahead of the Texans happens to be looking at a QB other than Andrew Luck , they'd likely be willing to move down. I just dont see another QB worth taking in the top 15 picks.
I haven't seen this regime move up before, but being in the 11 spot means we're probably sacrificing a bit of our draft in order to get one guy. Not sure if our 3 headed monster of a front office is going to see our roster as being good enough for one player to put it over the top like that.

As far as moving down, to me that's just something that happens on draft day if things fall the right/wrong way for this particular team. I don't think they are going to go in with the idea of trading down no matter who is available at the time but who knows.

Also this is before the combine or even who has officially declared and all that. You might not see any other top 15 picks, but that doesn't mean come April, Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert isn't up there jockeying for a top 10 or 15 spot.
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If Phillips brings in a one gap 3-4 scheme, we still may not get the big space eater.

At least with the introduction of the 3-4 (which by the way I LOVE) it once again enters the discussion.
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Also this is before the combine or even who has officially declared and all that. You might not see any other top 15 picks, but that doesn't mean come April, Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert isn't up there jockeying for a top 10 or 15 spot.
I agree with that .... Was more an opinion than fact based upon their body of work during their college career's.
I do think both of those guy's make better NFL QB's than Cameron who it seems will change positions anyway - to where ?! who knows.
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I'd rather have both , but if I had to settle on one or the other , give me the FS.
I think this DL is servicable with Shaun Cody at the NT , 0k0ye and Antonio Smith at the ends with MW and Barwin as your OLB's. If Ryans comes back 100% your front 7 is set with he and Cushing in the middle.

A healthy Barwin allows them to do a lot of things due to his unique abilities. He (and MW) are athletic enough to cover TE's , RB's in the flats and we all know both can get to the passer.
I don't see any way possible they put Mario at OLB...

He's is athletic, but he isn't that type of athletic...No way he can cover a TE man to man...
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I don't see any way possible they put Mario at OLB...

He's is athletic, but he isn't that type of athletic...No way he can cover a TE man to man...
They have had him drop into coverage often enough .... I could easily see him in the Demarcus Ware role .


You are probably correct tho , he likely winds up as a DE in any scheme they run.
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They have had him drop into coverage often enough .... I could easily see him in the Demarcus Ware role .


You are probably correct tho , he likely winds up as a DE in any scheme they run.
When he drops back it's some type of Zone coverage...

I doubt he's ever covered anyone man to man in an NFL game....

Can you imagine Mario trying to check Dallas Clark, Antonio Gates, or even our own Owen Daniels?

Probably wouldn't have very many LB's covering those guys anyways, but that'd be a match-up that I'd hate to get caught in even every once in a while. I just don't think Mario has the hips or the acceleration and change of direction speed to start at OLB...

Not saying he could never rush from that position or drop into coverage from there....
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We have been angry with the front office for years over this, a big body in the middle. This should be the year we get a big boy on the front line of our defense.

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Let the sunshine in...

Err, we're going to go small and athletic.
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For the record, what ever happened to Frank Okam?
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For the record, what ever happened to Frank Okam?
Okam was cut I believe.
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Okam was cut I believe.
I know this much, but why exactly? He was certainly fat enough for what we're looking for now.
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I know this much, but why exactly? He was certainly fat enough for what we're looking for now.
The term that was thrown around at the time was that he didnt fit the system.

Depending on what they want to do in this version of the 3-4 he still may not fit the system.
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I don't see any way possible they put Mario at OLB...

He's is athletic, but he isn't that type of athletic...No way he can cover a TE man to man...
I expect Wade will utilize Mario the same way he did Bruce Smith, Right Defensive End.
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YUP!! Okam was released because he was a big fat guy buy the last defensive regime. He didn't quite fit their "smaller and athletic" kinda build...


That said, the Texans should take a look at JB... He's a big ol fat guy!!!!
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I expect Wade will utilize Mario the same way he did Bruce Smith, Right Defensive End.
Thats about what I expect but MW has so much ability .... You could really create problems by moving him around. He and Barwin on the same side of the field could wreak a lot of havoc.
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