When do we know our draft slot? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Spled · 01-02-2011

I'm thinking probably around tenth.

Maddict5 · 01-02-2011

11th if seahawks win or 12th is hawks lose

Spled · 01-02-2011

There's a lot of 6-10 teams. It seems like we're on the bottom end.

bckey · 01-02-2011

Who cares? The same ol regime will be drafting.

Jackie Chiles · 01-02-2011

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Originally Posted by Spled

There's a lot of 6-10 teams. It seems like we're on the bottom end.

At least our pick will jump up 1 slot every round for about 4-5 rounds. So if we wind up picking 12th in the first round it will be 11th in the 2nd, 10th in the third etc. until we have the first pick out of all the 6-10 teams. The round after that we drop down to pick last but by then it probably won't make a difference. Definitely not a great year to go 6-10.

Jackie Chiles · 01-02-2011

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Originally Posted by Maddict5

11th if seahawks win or 12th is hawks lose

Is this assuming Dallas stays ahead of us? Is there any chance their SOS could bump us ahead of them? I know we were very close coming into today. Also, go Seahawks!

mussop · 01-02-2011

12th unless Seattle wins and we would of been picking 6th had we lost if im looking at it right. Thats six spots for a meaningless feel good win. This team is deserves everything that has happened to it and will for keeping

around.

SouthSideTexan · 01-02-2011

Darn.....can't even lose right.

CharloTex · 01-02-2011

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Originally Posted by Jackie Chiles

Is this assuming Dallas stays ahead of us? Is there any chance their SOS could bump us ahead of them? I know we were very close coming into today. Also, go Seahawks!

We are in 11th place so long as Seattle wins, which they currently are.

It's not SOS (Strength of Schedule) as the 1st tie breaker, its Opponent's Winning Percentage (OWP), the lower the %, the earlier you pick. Dallas finished with a .5458. Thier opponents won 131 of their 256 possible games. The Texans opponents finished with a .5583, winning 134 of their possible 256 games. Therefore, Dallas' OWP is less, so they suck just a little more than us, and will pick sooner.

GuerillaBlack · 01-02-2011

This is exactly why I hoped we would lose today. The best defensive prospects will be gone by the time we pick.

Jackie Chiles · 01-02-2011

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Originally Posted by CharloTex

We are in 11th place so long as Seattle wins, which they currently are.

It's not SOS (Strength of Schedule) as the 1st tie breaker, its Opponent's Winning Percentage (OWP), the lower the %, the earlier you pick. Dallas finished with a .5458. Thier opponents won 131 of their 256 possible games. The Texans opponents finished with a .5583, winning 134 of their possible 256 games. Therefore, Dallas' OWP is less, so they suck just a little more than us, and will pick sooner.

How is OWP different than SOS then? Doesn't SOS=the record of your opponents? I mean how else can you determine the strength of someones schedule? They are the same thing.

http://football.about.com/od/footbal...f-Schedule.htm

**Dutchrudder** · 01-02-2011

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

This is exactly why I hoped we would lose today. The best defensive prospects will be gone by the time we pick.

Yep, we just lost our chance at getting either of the top two DTs. Possibly the 3rd best as well, and we need a Suh/Ngata/Wilfork. This defense is going nowhere without an interior pass rush.

CloakNNNdagger · 01-02-2011

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Originally Posted by mussop

12th unless Seattle wins and we would of been picking 6th had we lost if im looking at it right. Thats six spots for a meaningless feel good win. This team is deserves everything that has happened to it and will for keeping

around.

And who feels really "good" now that we've won? Let their voices be heard!

BSofA04 · 01-02-2011

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger

And who feels really "good" now that we've won? Let their voices be heard!

When we want to lose, we win.

CloakNNNdagger · 01-02-2011

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Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

Yep, we just lost our chance at getting either of the top two DTs. Possibly the 3rd best as well, and we need a Suh/Ngata/Wilfork. This defense is going nowhere without an interior pass rush.

Yes it is, grasshopper.................right down the crapper.

steelbtexan · 01-02-2011

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Originally Posted by SouthSideTexan

Darn.....can't even lose right.

Another theme of the Kubiak regime,

Hey Gary if you cant beat the teams that count the least you can do is lose to the teams that dont matter.

MojoMan · 01-02-2011

Here is the order for the 2011 draft as posted on the Great Blue North Draft Report, complete with opponents W/L percentages:

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html

If the Texans had lost today, they would be picking #6 rather than #11.

steelbtexan · 01-02-2011

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

This is exactly why I hoped we would lose today. The best defensive prospects will be gone by the time we pick.

This is part of the reason that this team is where it is.

6-10

Do you hve any faith that Smithiak will find players in rds 1-2?

This doesn't even mention the rest of the draft.

Mr. White · 01-02-2011

The first pick after a 6-10 season. I'm already having flashback from the Ok0ye pick.

Which workout warrior do we draft next?

GuerillaBlack · 01-02-2011

Man I'm so sick of this. I just want my team to taste the playoffs just once.

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Spled All Pro Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 761 Rep Power: 50	Re: When do we know our draft slot? There's a lot of 6-10 teams. It seems like we're on the bottom end.

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Spled All Pro Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 761 Rep Power: 50	When do we know our draft slot? I'm thinking probably around tenth.

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MojoMan Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston Posts: 9,864 Rep Power: 11948	Re: When do we know our draft slot? Here is the order for the 2011 draft as posted on the Great Blue North Draft Report, complete with opponents W/L percentages: http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html If the Texans had lost today, they would be picking #6 rather than #11.

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