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Old 12-30-2010   #1
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Default Singletary/Kubiak?

Just off the bat, I have heard no rumors of this but thought it was just as plausible as Phillips/Kubiak.

First off, I want to say that I want Kubiak gone just as bad as the next guy but I would rather have a combo of Kubes and "insert great DC name here" than another unproven assisstant coach turn head coach.

Singletary just got canned in SF with a rather poor showing as a HC over there so Im not sure that teams will be lining up to hire him as the saving grace at HC. He did however display that "punch you in the mouth" winning attitude that I, myself would love to see on this team. He has an unreal background of great defense and in my eyes, is a hell of a guy that players would respect and in no way is the "softy" coach that Kubiak OR Wade would be.

Just throwing another thought to ponder on out there.

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Holding players and yourself as a coach responsible instills repect in players.

Pulling your pants down and going bat-shit crazy on the sidelines... not so much.
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Holding players and yourself as a coach responsible instills repect in players.

Pulling your pants down and going bat-shit crazy on the sidelines... not so much.
Yeah, maybe. But benching your star player to let him and the team know that not one single person is above the rest of the team does instill respect.

Not many coaches have the balls to do that.
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Yeah, maybe. But benching your star player to let him and the team know that not one single person is above the rest of the team does instill respect.

Not many coaches have the balls to do that.
I missed that... who did he sit out?
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I missed that... who did he sit out?
Vernon Davis. Mid game, benched his ass due to diva like tendencies, not playing hard, etc.
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I missed that... who did he sit out?
After VD was benched, the relationship was reportedly stonger than it had ever been between those two. VD then went on to become team captain and was a leader of the team after that.

That my friend is what a HC needs to do.

***that, and win games.
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He's never been a defensive coordinator.
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Default Re: Singletary/Kubiak?

Kubes/Singletary = blind leading the blind.

Did yo u see how unprepared the 49ers looked this yr? It was a joke. Almost Texan like.

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Yeah, maybe. But benching your star player to let him and the team know that not one single person is above the rest of the team does instill respect.

Not many coaches have the balls to do that.
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Arian Foster, who led the NFL in rushing through three weeks with 406 yards, did not play until midway through the second quarter of Sunday's Texans-Raiders game because of what the team called a "coach's decision."

"I didn't handle my business off the field and I got disciplined for it and rightfully so," Foster said, according to MyFoxHouston.com. I take full responsibility, and I apologize to my teammates for it and it won't happen again.

Foster entered the game with just under seven minutes remaining in the second quarter.

"Bottom line is we all have responsibilities," Texans head coach Gary Kubiak said. "Over the course of the last couple of weeks he's neglected a couple of responsibilities and been unaccountable in a couple of situations.

"When that happens you got to learn a lesson. You got to pay a price. I'm disappointed in him, but I'm proud of him coming back and playing well."
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He's never been a defensive coordinator.
Singletary, to me, has never been an X's and O's kinda guy. I think he'd be a great position coach... and maybe work his way up to DC. Like you said cak, he's never been a DC. If Kubiak stays as HC I want a proven DC in here that has done it before.
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He's never been a defensive coordinator.
Sorry.

LB coach in 2003 with Balitmore
LB coach and assisstant HC in SF in 2004
HC in 2007 in SF

LB for Chicago Bears, most notably the 85 Bears. One of the best defenses ever assembled.

Defensive background is there. I dont think a jump to DC would be to ridiculous.
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Default Re: Singletary/Kubiak?

San Fran doesn't have nearly the talent that the Texans have. Or that they are supposed to have according to their draft position. I would love to see Mike Singletary's reaction to someone with Mario or Amobe's God given talent taking plays off. Singletary is old school. He believes you earn a paycheck to play the game; to play every single play like it's your last. He expects alot out of the players, especially those with that ability. I'd like to see how pissed he could get on our sidelines....
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If this were a year or two ago, I'd be extremely happy to have Singletary come on and get his feet wet here as a defensive coordinator, but Gary is on his absolute last straw here and he has to get it right. No more experiments with the defensive personnel.

That said, Pollardized hit the nail on the head! I would love to get Singletary here as a linebacker or defensive line coach!
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Need a proven DC, not ANOTHER first time DC.
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If this were a year or two ago, I'd be extremely happy to have Singletary come on and get his feet wet here as a defensive coordinator, but Gary is on his absolute last straw here and he has to get it right. No more experiments with the defensive personnel.

That said, Pollardized hit the nail on the head! I would love to get Singletary here as a linebacker or defensive line coach!
My thoughts as well. Would love him as a position coach. Does he deserve a shot at DC? Sure I think he does. But not with us right now with Kubes as HC. We need a proven guy that knows what he's doing. Like you said, this is the last straw for Kubes and they better not take any chances. If Cowher came in as HC THEN maybe look at Singletary. He needs a guy to help him grow in the DC role and learn about it... not thrown in with a HC that knows nothing about the D... like what happend to Bush (almost).
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My thoughts as well. Would love him as a position coach. Does he deserve a shot at DC? Sure I think he does. But not with us right now with Kubes as HC. We need a proven guy that knows what he's doing. Like you said, this is the last straw for Kubes and they better not take any chances. If Cowher came in as HC THEN maybe look at Singletary. He needs a guy to help him grow in the DC role and learn about it... not thrown in with a HC that knows nothing about the D... like what happend to Bush (almost).
This would be my choice.
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Default Re: Singletary/Kubiak?

I'm unable to entertain any scenario that doesn't begin with "Gary Kubiak is fired...." so this is something that I have less than zero interest in. It's like suggesting that we find a new combination of failures and see if they together make a success.

I know manure tastes terrible but what if we combine manure with the also terrible taste of diesel fuel. Maybe then we'd have a delicious treat?

How about "No"?

Doesn't look promising from the outset. In fact Kubiak with Wade Phillips as DC looks more interesting and I have zero interest in that.
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I'm unable to entertain any scenario that doesn't begin with "Gary Kubiak is fired...." so this is something that I have less than zero interest in. It's like suggesting that we find a new combination of failures and see if they together make a success.

I know manure tastes terrible but what if we combine manure with the also terrible taste of diesel fuel. Maybe then we'd have a delicious treat?

How about "No"?

Doesn't look promising from the outset. In fact Kubiak with Wade Phillips as DC looks more interesting and I have zero interest in that.
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I'm unable to entertain any scenario that doesn't begin with "Gary Kubiak is fired...." so this is something that I have less than zero interest in. It's like suggesting that we find a new combination of failures and see if they together make a success.
I know manure tastes terrible but what if we combine manure with the also terrible taste of diesel fuel. Maybe then we'd have a delicious treat?

How about "No"?

Doesn't look promising from the outset. In fact Kubiak with Wade Phillips as DC looks more interesting and I have zero interest in that.
Well, that's what KC did. They added two failed HC's (off the Belichick tree no less) in Crennel & Weiss around their HC & voila...shit to sugar in 1 year. Not saying i don't think kubiak is deserving of being fired but don't underestimate the impact of what good coordinators can do for a team.
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