Texans vs. Texans: A sad state

[CloakNNNdagger]

I'm not for setting up Fire Kubiak type sites. But, I might have expected such response in only a very small number of other cities. I don't think that anyone on this MB would misdirect their passions to such an extent........at least I would hope not. We all have the privilege of disagreeing, and we certainly often use it freely. But taking it into the yard makes us all look very small.

From the FIREGARYKUBIAK.COM site:

Due to unrelenting hate mail and threats, I have decided that I am taking the site down. It was initially created as a fun place for people to gather who had the same thought process as I did. I really never intended for this to get as big as it did, and have no desire in taking on the world. Thank you to all of the supporters, and others that voiced their opinions. Time will tell if we get a new coach.

I also wanted to point out that the Shirts, Petition, and Rally were not my ideas, they were requests that came to me from Texans fans. This was never designed to make money, to date I have barely made enough to pay for the site.

This site was created for me to have fun, and instead has ruined the game of football for me. I will not be attending the rally so to those of you that wanted to meet me to "punch me in the face", there is no need for you to go. If the rally continues, it will not be because I continued to promote it, it will be because OTHER fans think that it is a good idea, and want a way to voice their opions, so maybe you could punch some of them in my place.

Furthermore I would like to point out that I have NEVER attacked Gary Kubiak as a person and I never would. I think he is a fine person, and a great offensive mind. I simply wanted better for the team, for the city, and for the fans. I see now that in voicing that opinion it only breeds hate and discontent, something that I don’t want to surround myself with.

Thanks again to everyone who was on board, and thanks to the others that have managed to ruin football for yet another Houston fan.

The contact email account has been disabled, so there is no need to continue to try and send me nasty-grams.

I truely hope that the Texans do well next year, with or without Kubiak.

Since I will no longer be involved with any portion of this page, I will not be doing any interviews, or anything of the sort. For any comments, question or interview requests going forward please contact:

Robert W.
rnw077@gmail.com

-or-

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/The...63676847002981

I am out guys.

[thunderkyss]

My priorities are way out of whack.

This game, this team.... is too big a part of my life than it should be. I ignore my family on Sunays, unless it is the one daughter or wife I am able to bring with me to the games.

But damn..... punch a guy in the face, because he doesn't like our coach..........

REally??

Hate mail???

Wow.

[TexansFight]

This town is soft and doesn't demand a winner. That is a big part of the problem. It pains me to come to that realization.

[Norg]

If your scared of threats your scared to live


Has the time grew near in my heart I wanted kubes to stay and hope he does all I care about now is to win this Sunday.

[Rey]

He sounds kind of soft to me.

[VTexan]

Originally Posted by Rey

He sounds kind of soft to me.

[Hookem Horns]

Originally Posted by TexansFight

This town is soft and doesn't demand a winner. That is a big part of the problem. It pains me to come to that realization.

Having mostly grown up in the northeast I have to agree with this statement. While I am a native Texan I do have the mentality of a northeastern sports fan since I grew up going to games up there. I honestly can't relate to many Houston sports fans and especially Bob McNair.

I just don't have the patience for all this Mr Nice Guy, buddy buddy, good ole boy, acceptance of losing crap.

The bottom line is Kubiak is a 5 year proven loser ... outtta here as they would say in New York. I don't care if he is a nice guy, from Houston, or where he went to school. The guy was hired to coach football not babysit your friggin kids.

Also anyone offended by that fire Kubiak site needs to grow a pair.

It's becoming "mamby pamby land" down there and the "jackwagon" is McNair if he keeps running his team like his Facebook page.

[GuerillaBlack]

Originally Posted by Rey

He sounds kind of soft to me.

No kidding:

If the rally continues, it will not be because I continued to promote it, it will be because OTHER fans think that it is a good idea, and want a way to voice their opions, so maybe you could punch some of them in my place.

Softie.

[DonnyMost]

The only thing more pathetic than planning a public protest to get a football coach fired is threatening that guy.

[wagonhed]

Originally Posted by VTexan

that **** was hilarious

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by DonnyMost

The only thing more pathetic than planning a public protest to get a football coach fired is threatening that guy.

Yep

There will be no messing with the family business.

[machineo]

Mine eyes are opened. I couldn't believe that there were people so faithful in Kubiak that they'd be threatening because of a site. And honestly the biggest reasons to be "faithful" in him are not even football related. Being a Texan/Houstonian/Aggie or a "good guy" aren't viable reasons to keep a guy after 5 years of bottomfeeding in this division.

[Playoffs]

If you don't have the courage of your convictions, don't seek publicity.

And it pisses me off the be included in this headline:

Houston Texans fans seeking firing of Gary Kubiak organize rally
ESPN - ‎Dec 28, 2010‎

when most won't read the first line: A pair of Houston Texans fans... I sure didn't sign up for any "protest".

If you want to put a brown paper sack over your head, move to the northeast or the left coast.

[bckey]

Kubiak should be fired and should have been fired last year. Anybody supporting him at this point is doing it out of some kind of fondness for the nice guy. 5 years speaks volumes folks. Kubiak is a failure here in Houston. The facts are his win/loss record overall and even more importantly in the AFC south. He has game management and prepardness faults along with player evaluation skills that don't even need to be brought up because there is already enough evidence to convict.

[Hookem Horns]

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[Kaiser Toro]

Originally Posted by Hookem Horns

Having mostly grown up in the northeast I have to agree with this statement. While I am a native Texan I do have the mentality of a northeastern sports fan since I grew up going to games up there. I honestly can't relate to many Houston sports fans and especially Bob McNair.

I can strongly identify with that as well.

[TexansFight]

Originally Posted by Hookem Horns

Having mostly grown up in the northeast I have to agree with this statement. While I am a native Texan I do have the mentality of a northeastern sports fan since I grew up going to games up there. I honestly can't relate to many Houston sports fans and especially Bob McNair.

I just don't have the patience for all this Mr Nice Guy, buddy buddy, good ole boy, acceptance of losing crap.

The bottom line is Kubiak is a 5 year proven loser ... outtta here as they would say in New York. I don't care if he is a nice guy, from Houston, or where he went to school. The guy was hired to coach football not babysit your friggin kids.

Also anyone offended by that fire Kubiak site needs to grow a pair.

It's becoming "mamby pamby land" down there and the "jackwagon" is McNair if he keeps running his team like his Facebook page.

My background is similar. I went to college in Philadelphia and lived in Manhattan for 4 years after law school. While I love Texas and grew up in Houston, I definitely gravitate towards the harder edge northeastern sports fan mentality. People up there demand winning and the sports talk and media up there do a much better job in holding players, coaches and ownership accountable.

Hell you know as a Giants fan that Coughlin's job is not secure and he has won a Super Bowl and has taken them to the playoffs during the same time span that Kubiak has achieved nothing.

That being said, it's not just a northeastern mentality, IMO. Younger fans like us in their 20s-30s are more demanding on average. Finally, I know I will get some heat for this but whatever. I think the more educated and successful you are the less you tolerate this BS.

The hokey con job coming out of 2 Reliant Park will appease the dullards but guys like us who are professionals in industries where achievement and accountability matters will not buy this bull****

[HTown2ATX]

Glad it wasn't my site. I would have just ran my mouth to the little bitches that sent me hate mail....lol....

I would have taken that as inspiration to go from just trying to run my site to now trying to piss those tricks off with their soiled panties.

I grew up for a long time in the NE too in the Philly area in NJ for years and the NYC/North Jersey area. Learned not to take any **** and definitely demand more from my teams.

This is what makes me so depressed right now. How we are keeping this coach and bringing in Mr. Aw Shucks himself (potentially) in Wade with his man cans blows my mind. Now I find out that Bob McNair is coreographing little dumbass stunts like having Bum come in to practice yesterday and sell Kubiak. Does McNair really think we are idiots? That actually pisses me off, it's like insult to injury.

I love the Texans, will never leave them and will alway be a fan, but this is a horrible joke this is becoming with this whole situation.

[FirstTexansFan]

Originally Posted by TexansFight

Younger fans like us in their 20s-30s are more demanding on average. Finally, I know I will get some heat for this but whatever. I think the more educated and successful you are the less you tolerate this BS.

I must be a genetic defect, you couldn't be more demanding then me. I want executions

Originally Posted by TexansFight

The hokey con job coming out of 2 Reliant Park will appease the dullards but guys like us who are professionals in industries where achievement and accountability matters will not buy this bull****

I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, but I'm smart enough to see BS I suppose. Trotting out Bum and Pastorini to save this guys job has a stench I have a difficult time stomaching

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by Hookem Horns

Having mostly grown up in the northeast I have to agree with this statement. While I am a native Texan I do have the mentality of a northeastern sports fan since I grew up going to games up there. I honestly can't relate to many Houston sports fans and especially Bob McNair.

I just don't have the patience for all this Mr Nice Guy, buddy buddy, good ole boy, acceptance of losing crap.

The bottom line is Kubiak is a 5 year proven loser ... outtta here as they would say in New York. I don't care if he is a nice guy, from Houston, or where he went to school. The guy was hired to coach football not babysit your friggin kids.

Also anyone offended by that fire Kubiak site needs to grow a pair.

It's becoming "mamby pamby land" down there and the "jackwagon" is McNair if he keeps running his team like his Facebook page.

THIS. REP!!(though Northeast is Ft. Worth )

Not sure why wanting a guy who has sucked fired would inspire someone to punch someone. As I said earlier, this town loves to hang on to people past their expiration for sentimental reasons and at the expense of winning.