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Old 12-28-2010   #141
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Is anyone just tierd of all these threads? I sure am.
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Good news if Kubiak stays as OC
That's not possible. Unless specific in their contract, a HC cannot be demoted. We would have to fire him like Jerrah did with Campo. Fire Kubes, have have him go to another team for season or 2, and then bring him back as OC.
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I think its more people being upset at the possibility of Kubiak remaining as HC of the Texans in 2011, than being upset at the possibility of Wade Phillips as the DC of the Texans in 2011.
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Thanks to the mod that changed the title of this thread.

They say where there's smoke, there's a fire. The smoke in this thread is regular ol' skunk.

The smoke in the other thread is worthy of a centerfold in High Times.
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Wade Phillips and Mike Shanahan overlapped in Denver for two years in 1993-1994 when Wade Phillips was the Head Coach and Shanahan the Offensive Coordinator. Of course, current Redskins DB Coach, Bob Slowik, was a Defensive Coordinator with Shanahan in Denver for 1 year in 2008 and that was a disaster (2008 Broncos defense ranked 28th in Yards Allowed and 30th in Points Allowed 28.
http://www.hogshaven.com/2010/11/18/...eres-a-history

that keeps your Denver connection alive

69% of Redskin fans voted yes that they would want Phillips as a DC (757 votes)
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Two captivating personalities ... pre-game motivationals will be ZZZZzzzzzzz.
Such "Personality" is highly over-rated. Last season, Frank Bush came in as a "motivated/spoken out/rah rah guy." It wouldn't take much to find posts on this forum to substantiate that many people here thought that was a good move at the time. The problem with such "guys", is that they are sometimes overcompensating for a lack of talent and/or intelligence. The "rah rahs" and screaming/yelling wear out quickly....and I suspect that's exactly why our defense has been terrible. I'm sure it didn't take long for the defensive players to figure out that they were going to be here longer than FB. I haven't seen nearly as many comments by the players this season that suggest that they are being properly placed in position to succeed/make plays.....certainly not as many as last season.

There are numerous examples of coaches who have had success regardless of what side of the personality spectrum they were on.

In order to be successful, the players don't need to be "fired up" as much as they need to be reminded that they could BE fired.

Our guys knew a long time ago that wasn't going to happen here....and they played like it.
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69% of Redskin fans voted yes that they would want Phillips as a DC (757 votes)
A Wade Phillips defense and a Gary Kubiak offense = CHAMPIONSHIP.

That's why it won't happen.

You know, I liked football a whole lot better before the internet was around.
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A Wade Phillips defense and a Gary Kubiak offense = CHAMPIONSHIP.

That's why it won't happen.

You know, I liked football a whole lot better before the internet was around.
Pick up the Chron and some Blue Bell ice cream for your off season Texans time.
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A Wade Phillips defense and a Gary Kubiak offense = CHAMPIONSHIP.

That's why it won't happen.

You know, I liked football a whole lot better before the internet was around.

I'm having visions of the "Co-Manager" episodes on The Office..........
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Tell me were talking OC and DC. Where does the head coaching and leadership come from?
We'll get Singletary to "motivate" the guys.
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Lot of people will want Phillips as their DC, so why would he go someplace where the HC is on a very, very short lease ? Like if Kubiak is back, its playoffs in 2011 or he's gone along with his staff of course since a new HC would want to pick his coordinators.
The only thing I can think, is that this fits McNair's sense of "family"

If he buys Kubiak's excuses this time, leaves him as HC, bring Phillips (sun of Bum who says Kubiak is doing a fine job), he'll have someplace to go if he decides to cut Kubiak at a later date.

This would be similar to hiring Frank Bush & keeping Richard Smith.
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A Wade Phillips defense and a Gary Kubiak offense = CHAMPIONSHIP.
I think it would be possible if there were a real HC in that equation also. He would have to have a real strong personality to overide those 2 marshmallow personalities. However if we bring in a legit HC they are going to want to appoint their own guys.
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It's all speculation... Clayton just stated live on ESPN just now.... as typed per my closed captioning...



I'm thinking now that the Favre lovefest is now over... they're trying to create news.
We're getting Favre??

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we will probably hear about 30 rumors or more within the next couple of weeks, esp with up to 10 teams looking for head coaches

so far, 49ers,Broncos,vikings,Cowboys all have with interim right now
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That's not possible. Unless specific in their contract, a HC cannot be demoted. We would have to fire him like Jerrah did with Campo. Fire Kubes, have have him go to another team for season or 2, and then bring him back as OC.
If a HC contract is dissolved by firing or by mutual agreement, both parties would be "free agents," free to re-negotiate another contract with different terms.
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If a HC contract is dissolved by firing or by mutual agreement, both parties would be "free agents," free to re-negotiate another contract with different terms.
So all this talk about Unk Bob being on the hook for the remaining 2 years of GK's contract are unfounded? McNair wouldn't have to "eat" the last 2 years of GK's contract? I've wondered about that because they can sign players to contracts for X amount of dollars and years but if they get cut then, see ya, no more cash. Is it or is it not different with management?
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LMAO if people think Kubiak would stay on as OC... The only way Kubiak is in Houston next year is if
a) He's still the HC or b) completely unemployed.

And yes, I would love for Wade to be the DC. We have more pieces in place (save our secondary of course and a big space eating nose tackle) to run the 3-4.

I wouldn't mind Kubiak remaining as HC, Wade as DC. That said, the final piece(s) of the puzzle is to lose Rick Smith and spend some money on a real GM.... You know the kind... The kind of GM where the HC works for the GM, not the other way around like this current broken model.
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So all this talk about Unk Bob being on the hook for the remaining 2 years of GK's contract are unfounded? McNair wouldn't have to "eat" the last 2 years of GK's contract? I've wondered about that because they can sign players to contracts for X amount of dollars and years but if they get cut then, see ya, no more cash. Is it or is it not different with management?
A coaches contract is normally guaranteed money unless exceptions are made in the contract. If there are no buy out clauses, if Kubiak is fired, McNair would be on the hook for the remainder of the contract. But, if both parties agreed to dissolve the contract, then I think they could do so and then write a new one. Could be also that it is written in his contract that he could be reassigned, though I doubt it.
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