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Old 12-28-2010   #1
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Cool Is gary Kubiac going to take Jack Del Rio and David Garrard down with him?

I remember when the Jags and Steelers had a good rivalry going. But in the end, when it is all said and done, I believe the Jaguars true rival are the Houston Texans. A budding rivalry started with the Houston Oilers as the emerged to be the first team the Jaguars not only played, but the first team they beat.

In 1995, the Jaguars lost their inaugural game 10-3 to the Oilers, then got their first win 17-16 in Houston on October 1.

This rivalry went on to Tennessee with the Titans dominating the rivalry in 1999 when Jeff Fisher wound up being the only coach to own Tom Coughlin with three consecutive losses, a memory that still haunts Jaguars fan this day.

This season started with a Broncos game heralded as the most important game in franchise history, well it wound up being the hottest game in franchise history, coincidently last weeks game wound up being the coldest, this in a time when Tim Tebow wound up looking hotter than anyone could have imagined against the Texans.

Texans where not able to stop Tebow once the offensive scheme was forced to be opend up for him as his Broncos fell to a 17 point deficit going into half time with scoring drives of 80, 71, 74 and 76 yards. This while aspiring the leagues 31st rank defense to hold off the texans to just two field goals in the second half.

The PlaTebow effect.

Living in Jacksonville watching our hometown hero inspire his team mates to greatness, is nothing new to us, but for Broncos fans booing Tebow in the first half due to an ultra conservative scheme on offense, where incessantly cheering him in the second half after he threw bombs for 40 and 50 yards threw the air during his scoring drives.

"We didn't stop them one time in the second half," Texans head coach Gary Kubiak said Monday. "The kid (Tebow) made a lot of great plays."

The Orlando Sentinal covered this topic.

But I digress...

Point being Texans are at the end of the road with Gary Kubiak who has lost 7 of the last 8 games after a promising start. Kubiak is more than likely headed to Denver to be the Broncos head coach at seasons end.

Question on this fans mind is will Kubiak take Jack Del Rio down with him if he fails to win?

Another question on this fans mind is how tebow managed to do something it took David Garrard till the end of his 7th season to accomplish, and this is to throw for 300 yards in a game.

NFL fans found it easy to write of the success Tebow has had thus far in only his second start, considering how poor the Texans passing defense is. Next week Tebow faces the No. 1 passing defense in the league, now I can't help but wonder will Tebows success influence this franchise to jetison the run dependant passer that is Garrard if he fails to cut mustard in light of Tebows success.

Tebow and Garrard are now entertwined in a maze of what could have been, and the only way to remove a huge portion of that stigma IMO would be to cut Garrard and seek a QB who is clutch, rather than one who lacks the mettle to remain composed under pressure time and time again.

Texans have a reputation for eing the Jaguars spoilers, they are coming into this game with a chip on their shoulder, a feeling of having been robbed in the last meeting between these two thanks to the hail mary throw.

Texans are on the verge of not only spoiling the season but the careers of Jack Del Rio and David Garrard. Is this the most important game in franchise history for the Jaguars?
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Texans have a reputation for eing the Jaguars spoilers, they are coming into this game with a chip on their shoulder, a feeling of having been robbed in the last meeting between these two thanks to the hail mary throw.
How many times has this scenario been repeated.................and how did they turn out?

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I hate to say this, but I'm not sure that Del Rio and Garrard should be terribly afraid of the final score of this game, if this season's history is any preview of things to come.
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I assume you mean Gary Kubiak?

I don't believe so, I think the Jags have exceeded expectations being in contention for this division.

As for the rivalry, I don't think the Texans have any real rivals. There is the interstate thing I guess with Dallas, although Dallas doesn't care, and I guess the Titans although I don't think the people of Tennessee give a crap so I think we are rivalry-less. As for the Jags I guess there is the same division thing but nothing more than that.

Give us a few more years and we might start having some real grudges.
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The Jaguars have turned things around from where they were at in the beginning of the season and there offense has been rolling so I doubt they will struggle to score early and often VS. the Texans.

I also doubt that Del Rio is sweating this matchup and for them this should be an easy W in the win column. With that said and in spite of such a terrible season, if Kubes has any balls or brains he's gonna' come out guns blazing with a lights out defense to finish the season.

However, given how we've played down the stretch regardless of the fact that we had the toughest schedule in the NFL (tied with the Titans), we'll probably give up too many points and then have an amazing come back effort only to see it squandered away due to an interception or something stupid like a ball being batted towards the opposing player who promptly scores the game winning touchdown.

Gary Kubiak, you are now officially Mr. Fail
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OMG how many times have I seen the suckiest looking texan teams destroy the best looking Jaguars team?
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I assume you mean Gary Kubiak?

I don't believe so, I think the Jags have exceeded expectations being in contention for this division.

As for the rivalry, I don't think the Texans have any real rivals. There is the interstate thing I guess with Dallas, although Dallas doesn't care, and I guess the Titans although I don't think the people of Tennessee give a crap so I think we are rivalry-less. As for the Jags I guess there is the same division thing but nothing more than that.

Give us a few more years and we might start having some real grudges.
According to Jason Babin - who has played for both the Texans and the Titans - on a Barry Warner's radio show last week, these teams really don't like each other. When asked if Tennessee thought of the Texans as rivals, he stated it is, without a doubt, a rivalry. He said players don't like each other and fans don't like each other, fwiw.

He also said some interesting things about Kubiak, but that's for another thread.
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According to Jason Babin - who has played for both the Texans and the Titans - on a Barry Warner's radio show last week, these teams really don't like each other. When asked if Tennessee thought of the Texans as rivals, he stated it is, without a doubt, a rivalry. He said players don't like each other and fans don't like each other, fwiw.

He also said some interesting things about Kubiak, but that's for another thread.
Yeah, I guess there is bad blood between the players.

I'm interested to hear that Tennessee fans don't like the Texans though.
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Yeah, I guess there is bad blood between the players.

I'm interested to hear that Tennessee fans don't like the Texans though.
I think it's probably because of all the trash talking that Texans fans have dished out toward their inbreeding way-of-life...and jealously because our beautiful full sets of teeth.
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He also said some interesting things about Kubiak, but that's for another thread.
I'd love to hear what Babin said.
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....He also said some interesting things about Kubiak, but that's for another thread....

So, where is this elusive "other thread" that you speak of?
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is this the most important game for da jags umm no this is just the AFC SOuth loser bowl

Teh COLTS are still da KING
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Jason Babin - also said some interesting things about Kubiak, but that's for another thread.

Very much true. I listened to that interview on the way to work.
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Texans will win this game, We will knock any hope the Jags have to reach the playoffs (even though they need help)

It is what the Texans do
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If they are our "new rival" they may not be for long, considering the Jags may end up in LA in a couple of years.
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I seem so much of story "chips on shoulder" here and there and everywhere. It started to sounds like unclean cow farm that you can find cow chips everywhere.
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Looks like it does not matter what the Jags do against the Texans

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true
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Looks like it does not matter what the Jags do against the Texans

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true
That link is from 12 months ago...
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As much as Id like to knock off the playoff hopes for the Jags - lose the game and we might pick in the top5 - win it and we might pick at 12.

This team has a really good core. With some better coaching and key additions at DT, FS and CB it could be a contender - so right now Im all in next season mode. Let the young guys play, maybe try to get Foster the rushing title, but don`t win the game. That way we might pick a real promising DT or CB early (and maybe move KJ or Quinn to FS) and get a new coach.

And anyways, the Colts will win the division...
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That link is from 12 months ago...
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