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View Poll Results: Trade Schaub plus first round pick for first overall pick?
No way. Schaub is our guy! 52 67.53%
Yes, and I would pick Andrew Luck! 23 29.87%
Yes, and I would pick another player (specify below) 2 2.60%
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Old 12-27-2010   #1
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Matt Schaub plus our first round draft pick for the first overall pick to get Andrew Luck?

Makes sense for Carolina as they just spent a second on Claussen last year and he is not ready yet. They would get a proven NFL quaterback. We would get a guy that may turn out to be the next John Elway.
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Why wouldn't Carolina want the "next" John Elway?
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Because he might not be the next John Elway, they need more players, and they would still get a top 10 pick in addition to Schaub.
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Because he might not be the next John Elway, they need more players, and they would still get a top 10 pick in addition to Schaub.
Well, if he's not the next John Elway, then why would we want him?

I thought we just proved that Tim Tebow is the next John Elway.
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Would Luck be able to put up 30+ points a game? How about trading Schaub for a NFL caliber defense?
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Default Re: Would you trade...

Getting the #1 overall pick is not a quick fix for this franchise. Schaub's mistakes are magnified because he is the QB. However, Schaub is NOT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM on this team. Let's fix the most glaring problems first... Culture, defense, scouting department, coaching staff before selling the farm to draft what could be the next (HWNBNOTB or John Elway) rookie QB.
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Well, if he's not the next John Elway, then why would we want him?

I thought we just proved that Tim Tebow is the next John Elway.
I think we proved Tebow is the next VY.
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Would Luck be able to put up 30+ points a game? How about trading Schaub for a NFL caliber defense?
I could go for that one.
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Getting the #1 overall pick is not a quick fix for this franchise. Schaub's mistakes are magnified because he is the QB. However, Schaub is NOT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM on this team. Let's fix the most glaring problems first... Culture, defense, scouting department, coaching staff before selling the farm to draft what could be the next (HWNBNOTB or John Elway) rookie QB.
Spot on.

I'm betting Luck stays for his last year anyway. We get a new coach, new attitude, bring in some D vets FAs, and address the defense bigtime. Our O can manage to win games as it stands, if our D could just compete. Schaub is not our issue and certainly not worth addressing.
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Spot on.

I'm betting Luck stays for his last year anyway. We get a new coach, new attitude, bring in some D vets FAs, and address the defense bigtime. Our O can manage to win games as it stands, if our D could just compete. Schaub is not our issue and certainly not worth addressing.
Luck might be different, but considering the CBA situation I'd think most under-classmen would want to come out. Odds are, the 2011 draft will likely be the last without a rookie salary cap.
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Being that we've had the 1st pick twice , I'd say no thanks .
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I'm not voting in that poll because I didn't see my choice there. If I had it would have read something like "No, because that's not good value for Schaub plus our #1"

Look, Schaub has issues but he can be an effective starting QB for probably a majority of the teams in the league (including us if we'd start putting him better positions and stop asking him to do things he's not particularly good at doing). I'm not giving him plus our 1 for the top overall pick. We'd be getting fleeced in that deal.
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Getting the #1 overall pick is not a quick fix for this franchise. Schaub's mistakes are magnified because he is the QB. However, Schaub is NOT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM on this team. Let's fix the most glaring problems first... Culture, defense, scouting department, coaching staff before selling the farm to draft what could be the next (HWNBNOTB or John Elway) rookie QB.
Exactly what I was thinking. Yes, Schaub has a medicore arm, but I think a lot of his issues this year are because he is always under max pressure from his own defense.

I think we can win with Schaub. I don't think he is elite, but with a good group of guys around him on offense and a much improved defense I think he is good enough.

Now, would I like to see some real competition for his spot? You bet. That's one of the issues on this team - too many players feel safe. We need to ratchet up the competition at all spots on the team. Nobody other than Andre Johnson should feel his spot is totally secure in 2011.
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in a heart beat.

would also be aggressive in pursuit of Andrew Lucks HC Jim Harbaugh.

kill two birds with one stone
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Schaub is a decent top 10-15 QB. Andrew Luck could turn out to be unbelievable though. We have stunk for so long, I would be interested in at least considering the trade.
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I'm not voting in that poll because I didn't see my choice there. If I had it would have read something like "No, because that's not good value for Schaub plus our #1"

Look, Schaub has issues but he can be an effective starting QB for probably a majority of the teams in the league (including us if we'd start putting him better positions and stop asking him to do things he's not particularly good at doing). I'm not giving him plus our 1 for the top overall pick. We'd be getting fleeced in that deal.
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Luck might be different, but considering the CBA situation I'd think most under-classmen would want to come out. Odds are, the 2011 draft will likely be the last without a rookie salary cap.
Your right, I keep forgetting about this being the last uncapped rookie salary year.
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You'd probably be paying Luck more than Schaub, and you really don't KNOW what your paying for.
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in a heart beat.

would also be aggressive in pursuit of Andrew Lucks HC Jim Harbaugh.

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Can Luck play corner or safety?
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Schaub is a decent top 10-15 QB. Andrew Luck could turn out to be unbelievable though. We have stunk for so long, I would be interested in at least considering the trade.
Right...Schaub isn't a "put the team on my shoulders and I'll drive it 90 for the win" quarterback, but if you give him the case of characters to work with, he becomes above average in my eyes.
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