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Old 12-15-2010   #41
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He just stopped and grabbed both of his groins and said, Man, I think something is really wrong, Smith said. I watched him on the next play, and he just didnt have nothing to give."

Can't believe they didn't shut him down a couple of weeks ago. Very disappointed in this organization's management of this injury. Guess all we can do now is pray he makes a full recovery.
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Is the medical staff the Texans are currently using the same ones that they had back in '02?

There has been way too much of this bs going back to Bosselli...
Pretty much so, except for Dr Tom Clanton their foot and ankle specialist, who last year moved his practice to Vail, Colorado
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Pretty much so, except for Dr Tom Clanton their foot and ankle specialist, who last year moved his practice to Vail, Colorado
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He just stopped and grabbed both of his groins and said, Man, I think something is really wrong, Smith said. I watched him on the next play, and he just didnt have nothing to give."

Can't believe they didn't shut him down a couple of weeks ago. Very disappointed in this organization's management of this injury. Guess all we can do now is pray he makes a full recovery.
He evidently EXTENDED his injury into an acute surgical problem. With an appropriate early 4-8 week rest and rehab, it is very likely that Mario could have recovered to play out most of the regular schedule in good condition.......and avoided the need for surgery.
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Corrected my post.............I was responding to you!
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With Williams out, Kubiak said that second-year defensive end Tim Jamison is “about to play a great deal.” Antoine Caldwell will step into the starting lineup for Brisiel, who injured his right calf against the Ravens. Brisiel started nine games this season.

Anderson injured his left shoulder on Monday while attempting to make a leaping catch in the fourth quarter. He finishes the season with 11 catches for 117 yards. His departure creates an immediate opportunity for rookie wide receiver Dorin Dickerson, a seventh-round pick out of Pittsburgh who has played sparingly.

With roster spots to fill, the Texans signed defensive tackle DeMario Pressley from the New Orleans Saints' practice squad and wide receiver Derrick Townsel from their own practice squad.

Pressley was a fifth-round draft pick in 2008 from North Carolina State. He played in nine games for the Saints last season. Townsel is an undrafted rookie from Murray State who has kick return ability.

“Townsel deserves the right to be on the active (roster),” Kubiak said. “When kids work for you all season like that, to get rewarded at the end, to get on the active roster, I know the team is excited for him.”

The Texans also signed center Brett Helms and wide receiver Montez Billings to their practice squad. Rookie defensive tackle Malcolm Sheppard left the Texans’ practice squad earlier this week to sign with the Tennessee Titans.
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Corrected my post.............I was responding to you!
I thought so. Don't you find it disheartening to see the same type of diagnosis year after year that appears to be faulty over time? How can they continue to recommend that the player can play, when it is in the player's best interest to rest an injury, or have an early surgery to facilitate a sooner return? Do you think they are being pressured to recommend what the coach wants to hear? Or are they merely incompetant?
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Were you replying to me or Jackie here?
And if Dr. Clanton (who I know) were still with the Texans, he would have shut AJ down immediately after his initial high ankle sprain and given him the 6 week rest and rehab he required. If you think that AJ's had a great year, you need to realistically think of how totally unstoppable he would have been with TWO fully operational ankles.
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And if Dr. Clanton (who I know) were still with the Texans, he would have shut AJ down immediately after his initial high ankle sprain and given him the 6 week rest and rehab he required. If you think that AJ's had a great year, you need to realistically think of how totally unstoppable he would have been with TWO fully operational ankles.
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I thought so. Don't you find it disheartening to see the same type of diagnosis year after year that appears to be faulty over time? How can they continue to recommend that the player can play, when it is in the player's best interest to rest an injury, or have an early surgery to facilitate a sooner return? Do you think they are being pressured to recommend what the coach wants to hear? Or are they merely incompetant?
Pressure is a significant factor that the Texans non physician FO place (along with player's avid desire to play, with ignorance of what the realistic impact on their performance, career and post playing days really are), but as much as I would hate to say, more that a pinch of incompetence and medical soul and ethics-selling seems to be also playing a role.
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That is painful to hear.
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Yo CND, whats your take on Demeco's injury? I've heard rumblings that it is very difficult to come back from. I wonder how this lockout will affect the rehab of the players? Do most of them head back home to rehab or spend the offseason at the teams's medical facilities. If its the latter, then I'm guessing they won't be allowed any access during this lockout.
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Yo CND, whats your take on Demeco's injury? I've heard rumblings that it is very difficult to come back from. I wonder how this lockout will affect the rehab of the players? Do most of them head back home to rehab or spend the offseason at the teams's medical facilities. If its the latter, then I'm guessing they won't be allowed any access during this lockout.
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For complete tears, the route is virtually always surgical, and always for athletes.

A major advantage of early repair of the Achilles tendon is that it offers a lower re-rupture rate ~3%, a greater chance of returning to play, with ultimately greater strength and more endurance. However, wound complications such as tear through of the repair and infection and if so can be very serious. The overall complication rate of surgically treated Achilles tendon ruptures is approximately 20%. Problems with wound healing remain the most common and most difficult to manage given the empirically poor circulation of this tendon.

Barring any complications, most operative rehab consists of a cast for 2 weeks, then a removeable cast-boot for about 12 weeks after surgery. It usually takes 6 months after surgery before players can return to play. Keep in mind, this does not include time required to return to true football conditioning and form.
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After surgical repair, football player return to play has been approximately 90%. Return to preinjury performance has been noted at closer to 80-85%. Demeco should be able to show us his level of return by 9-12 months post repair.
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