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Old 04-08-2005   #21
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Right now I think we will finish last. I think the Titans and Jags are going to surprise you. They will not be as bad as last year and right now I don't see any reason to be optomistic about us next year. We have given up more than we have gained so far. The one incouraging note is the possible return of BJ. If we don't come out of the draft with someone who will have instant impact, you can say goodbye to next season. I still say we had the chemistry we needed at the end of the 2nd year, but that was all lost by the beginning of the 3rd year and we were never a TEAM last year. That's why we were so up and down last year. Again, I hope I'm wrong, but I think people are way to optomistic given the perpensities of this coaching staff and players.
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@ us finishing last next year...How have the Titans improved enough over last year to possibly overtake us? They lost Rolle, Dyson, Mason, Miller, Nedney, Carter, Holocombe, all of them being starters...What have they gained over last year other than a quasi-healthy Steve McNair with nobody to throw to? The sky is falling, chicken little...Next season isn't over before it has even started...
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Didn't the Titans pick up a pretty good OC from SC.
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They picked up a good college OC who has never worked in the NFL before...He may end up working out well for them and he may not, but he should take some time getting used to the NFL game...
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Oh, yes, and if McNair is healthy he is more than a threat to beat anyone in this league. We will just have to wait and see. Perhaps I'm too negative, but I think many are way too positive about next season. I think we will continue to struggle with our O-line. Fix the O-line and we are a winning ball club. Don't fix it and we won't be a winner. I think its as simple as that. Capers will fix his defense because that's his forte. Offense is not, and that bothers me very much. I'm not looking for us to have an Indy offense, but I think Capers is not even giving us an average offense.
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I'm just curious...I know the Texans SHOULD beat Cincinatti and Cleveland, but WILL they?
The scary thing is that even though Cleveland was a terrible team last year that we couldn't beat, they will be totally different/better team this year.
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I actually think we have most of the pieces in place on offense, the only thing missing is pass protection, and I fully expect us to tend to fixing it through the draft...I may start to worry a little if we don't take any O-Linemen on the first day of the draft, though...You have to realize that there are a lot of people here who are constantly staring through steel blue glasses and can't step back and view things in an objectionable manner...If you ask most of the users here, they will say we are a playoff team, but IMO, we're not...We're still at least a year away...Capers is overhauling the LB corps and we'll have a few guys who will have to get used to their new roles, and our D may look really ugly at the beginning of the year, but by the end of the year, it will be a force (hopefully)...Still, the draft hasn't even passed, so it's still kinda early to speculate how things will shake out next season...
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Right now I think we will finish last. I think the Titans and Jags are going to surprise you. They will not be as bad as last year and right now I don't see any reason to be optomistic about us next year.
Well that pretty much sums up how to be chicken little--be as pessimistic as possible about the Texans and as optimistic as possible about everyone else--facts be damned--as D-Rek said, the Titans have lost a ton of players.

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I still say we had the chemistry we needed at the end of the 2nd year, but that was all lost by the beginning of the 3rd year and we were never a TEAM last year. That's why we were so up and down last year. Again, I hope I'm wrong, but I think people are way to optomistic given the perpensities of this coaching staff and players.
All reality aside, that is a perfectly fine opinion. 2003 the Texans ended the season 0-4. Boy that chemistry sure paid off. 2004 the Texans ended 2-2. As for up and down I agree, winning back to back games on three occassions and two more total games in 2004 made them more up and down because there was more up vs. 2003 which was unbalanced down.
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Not to sound like a part of the masses- I would be sorely disappointed if we didn't get into the playoffs. I would have been happy with ONE more win last year :-/
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Right now I think we will finish last. I think the Titans and Jags are going to surprise you. They will not be as bad as last year and right now I don't see any reason to be optomistic about us next year. We have given up more than we have gained so far. The one incouraging note is the possible return of BJ. If we don't come out of the draft with someone who will have instant impact, you can say goodbye to next season. I still say we had the chemistry we needed at the end of the 2nd year, but that was all lost by the beginning of the 3rd year and we were never a TEAM last year. That's why we were so up and down last year. Again, I hope I'm wrong, but I think people are way to optomistic given the perpensities of this coaching staff and players.

hmm i dunno if your just having a bad day or did your dog die . very very negative opinion, i have an idea why dont you call capers and tell him to forefit this season, we dont want our texans to get humiliated or anything. And chemistry in 03,,,WHY because we LOST so many close games. And not enough in 04 because we won 2 more and finally had winning streaks,,,very strange opinion,,,but hey thats all it is "your opinion". InfantryCak make sure we can find this thread once the season is over PLEASE, cause it may come in as "good throw it in your face stuff "
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maybe some people set themselves low standards so when they surpass them they feel absolutely amazing about everything.

that being said...i still dont understand ANY reason to be pessimistic about this upcoming season. and i dont really understand the part about the titans and jags being better than us.

the biggest talk this offseason has been the overhaul of the LB core and that is for the better. im actually pretty excited about our defense this year! but im always excited about texans football!!!
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Relax folks, I-Bar has never seen a glass that was half full. He just sets things very negative. Not sure why, but then he isn't surprised if something goes wrong.
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Here's an article from ESPN on the Return of McNair. As I have said I think you are writing off the Titans far too quickly. If McNair is around they are exceedingly dangerous. He has proven to be a one man gang in the past and his desire is unquestionable. Again many of you feel I'm too pesimistic, but many of you are too optomistic particularly with respect to the O-line and our offensive capabilities. My pessimism stems from the O-line and the lack so far of any indication of change or improvement. You have your opinions and I have mine. We were in the games at the end of the 2nd season and played very well against the top teams. Again we had team chemistry and we didn't have it last year.
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Those who EXPECT the playoffs this year are VERY likely to be dissapointed. We will be in the hunt I think, but will come up a bit short at 9-7 or 10-6. That would be nice progress and then in the 06 season make the playoffs and in 07 run deep and maybe make it all the way.
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Well at least next year will be very interesting. To at least have a shot at the playoffs is way more exciting than hoping you go .500 as in last year. Our division will be extremely tough and improved all the way around. The Titans will be losing a lot of talent but they were also decimated by injuries. They had thirteen rookies on their roster and I'm sure will improve through the draft. In fewer words I wouldn't expect them to be an easy W by any means. Obviously the Colts will be difficult and the Jags are somewhat unpredictable I would think they're a favorite for a wildcard too. I think it all comes down to staying healthy. Every area of the Texans will likely be improved(at least faster). They will have the talent to dominate if the d-line and o-line step up. That's the big if at this point but they should be much better. With the parity in the NFL we could have a home playoff game or drafting at #13 again. How's that for a prediction personally I think it's about time to dominate! I thought it would happen last year they just didn't seem to have the confidence it takes.
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Here's an article from ESPN on the Return of McNair. As I have said I think you are writing off the Titans far too quickly. If McNair is around they are exceedingly dangerous. He has proven to be a one man gang in the past and his desire is unquestionable. Again many of you feel I'm too pesimistic, but many of you are too optomistic particularly with respect to the O-line and our offensive capabilities. My pessimism stems from the O-line and the lack so far of any indication of change or improvement. You have your opinions and I have mine. We were in the games at the end of the 2nd season and played very well against the top teams. Again we had team chemistry and we didn't have it last year.

i'm sorry maybe i'm missing something but dont a QB need some good players around him in order to be able to win games !?!?!?!? hmm i guess he can be the QB, running back, DE, WR and kicker/punter.
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McNair has had the ability to work with his players. He's like Montana in certain ways in that he seems to find ways to beat teams despite the talent he has. Just don't under estimate the man. I hope we can beat them, but I think they will be better this year and they will have a new OC. That could be good and bad, but he will bring new plays and techniques to the table. They will be more unpredictable for us. Our team has yet to score enough points to stay out of the reach of the other team. Consequently, if its close, you can be easily beaten by McNair. Last year our team was very vulnerable to a good passing QB. You give McNair time when he's healthy and he will riddle our defense. I don't think you can count any wins as certain wins for our ball club. Other teams will always be in the game against us, and one mistake, is all it takes. We never seem to have a comfortible lead.
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Those who EXPECT the playoffs this year are VERY likely to be dissapointed. We will be in the hunt I think, but will come up a bit short at 9-7 or 10-6. That would be nice progress and then in the 06 season make the playoffs and in 07 run deep and maybe make it all the way.
Ok, I never thought about that. I was associating playoffs with a 9-7, 10-6 year, which is what I will be happy with. If that doesn't cut the playoffs, so beit.
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I'm shooting at 9-7/10-6 myself. We will be in wild card contention with that record and this should be our first serious push for a playoff spot.
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...please remember that 4 of our 7 wins were against the same 2 teams
and you can bet they will be gunning for us this year--we lost 9 of the other
12 games, including games to some lowly teams like the Tigers and Browns.
The playoffs this year? I guess some of us are wondering where all the
missing links are going to come from to win 9 or 10 games...don't get me
wrong, I'd love to see it. The Titans and Jags made major coaching changes,
as did many other teams which means we'll be seeing a lot of new stuff
from them and others. The Texans? Let's plan on '05 being another step
toward our goal of establishing a permanent/long lasting winning tradition
and not another 'well, at least we won one more game than '04,' or worse
yet---'so we had a worse record, just look at what we had to try and over-
come and it's only the 4th year of our 5 plus years plan'...
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