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Old 12-06-2010   #1
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I think I am now an official member of the get rid of kubes club I just want to know from you kube supporters what your case for keeping him is? Especially if there are successful coaches out there willing to take his job..
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I think I am now an official member of the get rid of kubes club I just want to know from you kube supporters what your case for keeping him is? Especially if there are successful coaches out there willing to take his job..
Are there?
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I think he needs to go, but here is why I think he may stay. My guess is that outside of the collective bargaining issue, McNair probably thinks that the Colts have finally hit the wall and the division will be open to anyone (he is probably correct in that assumption) from this point forward. In his mind bringing in a new coach may take some time for growth and add a learning curve in a period where winning now is an option.

My counter would simply be that Kubes has had his shot - let's try to get in someone new who can take this team to the next level and become the new dominant force in our division.
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Gary Kubiak:

Pros: Calls everyone "kid"
Delivers Mediocrity
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Meh, he'll probably go on a 3 or 4 game run to end the season and McNair will think things have turned around. In turn, McNair won't make any coaching changes in the off season. Then....we'll suck again next season.

You see, it's been like Groundhog Day with this team the past 4 years.
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I just think if we had a halfway decent defense, we'd be in the playoffs. Is Kubiak the one that's ultimately responsible? Yes, not denying that. Is he the one that hired Bush as DC? Yes, although I'd be really curious to know if he was Smith and McNair's #1 guy too - we never hear about that.

No I don't like mediocrity. I don't like missing out on the playoffs. And I'm tired of the 8-8/9-7 seasons. I think Kubiak has REALLY turned this team around, it's just a matter of if he's going to see this team succeed or if another coach will.

With the things that have happened, whether we like it or not, I really don't see McNair firing Kubiak this offseason. I think there's about a 1% chance that happens.

Put me in the bandwagon with Wade Phillips for DC on the side of it. I think he's a perfect fit here and McNair can keep Kubiak as HC. This defense needs proper coaching and proper scheme calls. I think Phillips would be able to do that. Kubiak can keep the offense running which will be even better when we have a defense.

That's my rationalization. lol

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Keep Kubiak Klub reasons...

1. Sunshine
2. Lollipops
3. Rainbows

I mean, what else is there really? Animal Balloons maybe...but let's not get greedy.
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There was a thread like this last year. I think it will be harder to make a case to keep Kubiak this year.

1) "Incremental Improvement" used to be the biggest factor even though many thought that was baloney without a corresponding increase in wins. It seems like it has been proven that this approach didn't work since we are now sliding back. Even the biggest spinmeisters here are having a hard time showing where there is overall improvement this season.

2) "If the Texans make a change, it will set the team back two years". I think this idea is false, because every year sees teams change and make fast turnarounds. Even if it was true, had the team switched out Kubes after his second 8-8 season when he clearly showed he hadn't made improvement as a coach, they'd be through any theoretical setback by now.

3) That leaves "Kubiak is a rookie head coach, let's hope he gets it". Well, he's not a rookie anymore and every year this same hope runs into the reality that he hasn't "gotten it".

Even though I can't see how a case can be made to keep Kubiak, I am convinced he will be kept. Analysis paralysis will set in and no major changes will occur.
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Keep Kubiak Klub reasons...

1. Sunshine
2. Lollipops
3. Rainbows

I mean, what else is there really? Animal Balloons maybe...but let's not get greedy.
Koolaid is a must... and quite honestly, I demand animal balloons.
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There is no reason that I can think of for keeping Kubiak. He has proven what he is, and I want no more of it.
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Yeah, there is and it's right here....



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He's better than Vista.
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He can have this case if he leaves.

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He's better than Vista.
That's not saying a lot. LOL
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That's not saying a lot. LOL
My point exactly.
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Gary Kubiak:

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Nice post "kid".
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There IS a case, but its an increasingly hard one to make.
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How about a suitcase back to Denver. Take Rick Smith with.


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