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The conservative decision-making that led to this guy being shelved for the year is the type of mentality that is pervasive throughout this team.

Holliday would be light years ahead of Slaton by now had they just not been so damn scared to death of anything that was not conservative to the bone. Any sort of risk at all and they tuck their tail and run the other way. That's why we have a creampuff team with a creampuff coach and a creampuff qb leading the whole brigade.
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He got injured so this is a dumb thread.

ETA he sucked in pre-season as well.
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This thread = fail. The dude is on the IR.
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...and he didnt do squat in the preseason except fumble
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The conservative decision-making that led to this guy being shelved for the year is the type of mentality that is pervasive throughout this team.

Holliday would be light years ahead of Slaton by now had they just not been so damn scared to death of anything that was not conservative to the bone. Any sort of risk at all and they tuck their tail and run the other way. That's why we have a creampuff team with a creampuff coach and a creampuff qb leading the whole brigade.
and creampuff posters who don't even know that players are on IR. This thread gets
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This makes me want to start a thread...
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This is not going the way the OP thought it would.
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This is the worst thread I've ever seen.
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The conservative decision-making that led to this guy being shelved for the year is the type of mentality that is pervasive throughout this team.

Holliday would be light years ahead of Slaton by now had they just not been so damn scared to death of anything that was not conservative to the bone. Any sort of risk at all and they tuck their tail and run the other way. That's why we have a creampuff team with a creampuff coach and a creampuff qb leading the whole brigade.

Are you really that obtuse, or are you just trying to be clever?


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Was his injury really season-ending, or was it a way to stash him away for next year without losing him to waiver wire/injury settlement or using up a PS spot?

Not saying that he didn't have an injury, moreso saying it might not have been season-ending in reality?

Just saying this because I thought I remembered this being a theory back when it happened.
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He got injured so this is a dumb thread.

ETA he sucked in pre-season as well.
the conservative decision that i assume the OP is referring to is shelving holliday for a minor ligament tear in his thumb. if i remember correctly (not my strong suit), the injury wasnt severe and would've recovered in just over a month. he would've been back by week 4 or 5 at the latest.

because he struggled in preseason, they most likely decided at that point he probably wasnt good enough to be ready this season and used the injury to put him on IR instead of PUP or the practice squad. this was probably the right call, so i disagree with the OP, but holliday sure couldnt be worse than slaton.
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the conservative decision that i assume the OP is referring to is shelving holliday for a minor ligament tear in his thumb. if i remember correctly (not my strong suit), the injury wasnt severe and would've recovered in just over a month. he would've been back by week 4 or 5 at the latest.

because he struggled in preseason, they most likely decided at that point he probably wasnt good enough to be ready this season and used the injury to put him on IR instead of PUP or the practice squad. this was probably the right call, so i disagree with the OP, but holliday sure couldnt be worse than slaton.
IDK, he did fumble the ball a few times in pre-season.

The guys I really want to see back on the field are Barwin and Tate.
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the conservative decision that i assume the OP is referring to is shelving holliday for a minor ligament tear in his thumb. if i remember correctly (not my strong suit), the injury wasnt severe and would've recovered in just over a month. he would've been back by week 4 or 5 at the latest.

because he struggled in preseason, they most likely decided at that point he probably wasnt good enough to be ready this season and used the injury to put him on IR instead of PUP or the practice squad. this was probably the right call, so i disagree with the OP, but holliday sure couldnt be worse than slaton.
I think you're right. Holliday's chances of making an NFL team were slim at best. His injury was essentially a death sentence. He showed very little in the way of turning into a solid KR. I wonder if he'll be in training camp or if he'll be cut outright next year.
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IDK, he did fumble the ball a few times in pre-season.

The guys I really want to see back on the field are Barwin and Tate.
yup, which is why it was the right call (though a conservative one) to put him on IR. slaton didnt help this arguement by putting one on the turf tonight either. what happened to our return game? we used to be good.

i couldnt agree more about barwin and tate, two guys we really need.
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IDK, he did fumble the ball a few times in pre-season.

The guys I really want to see back on the field are Barwin and Tate.
So I looked it up. Looks like he fumbled and muffed because of the injury. Maybe he will get a shot next year.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/7169979.html
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I don't care how the thread goes.
This is not a thread going contest....

He was put on IR because they gave up on him and didn't want to cut him. If you can't see through the smoke and mirrors that is the NFL IR then I guess you still believe in Santa Claus too.

Holliday could have played this year had they not been so scared. The coaching staff, the owner, the GM...sooo so scared.
They play scared, they maked scared decisions, they are conservative to a fault.

If you couldn't see that Holliday Pro Bowl type return skills from the few that he did return. You HAVE to do whatever you have to do to make sure he gets back on the field at some point.

He will be a Pro Bowl returner at some point, hopefully it will be here.
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I don't care how the thread goes.
This is not a thread going contest....

He was put on IR because they gave up on him and didn't want to cut him. If you can't see through the smoke and mirrors that is the NFL IR then I guess you still believe in Santa Claus too.

Holliday could have played this year had they not been so scared. The coaching staff, the owner, the GM...sooo so scared.
They play scared, they maked scared decisions, they are conservative to a fault.

If you couldn't see that Holliday Pro Bowl type return skills from the few that he did return. You HAVE to do whatever you have to do to make sure he gets back on the field at some point.

He will be a Pro Bowl returner at some point, hopefully it will be here.
Meh. I agree with you, but at the same time I disagree.

I do believe that Holliday will be a pro bowl level returner. However, this was not his year. Thumb injuries can be a pain to recover from, and I do not trust the medical staff to wait until he was fully recovered to let him play.
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At least this thread has some humor in it to break up all the doom and gloom elsewhere. Even if the humor is unintentional.
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This thread is full of fail and AIDS.
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