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Old 09-25-2011   #201
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he just has to get tougher and be willing to take some hits. He is a buy guy surely he is not going to break in half, although the grabbing of the helmet thing really had me baffled...maybe the guy scratched his neck? lol
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so will take him over sanchez, big ben, brady, flacco, brees, rodgers etc
I think your asking me if I would take him over those names.
I would definately take Brees, Rodgers, and Brady over Schaub. The other 3 have their plusses and minuses.

My point was you pretty much said that Schaub is the number 11 QB in the league right now, and that we can go to QBMart and just pick up a new elite QB talent. If it was so easy then why haven't those other 21 teams not done yet?
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Un-f-ing believable really. Schaub sucks?????


Seasons over let's install Wade as the HC.


This board is unbelievable sometimes. I'm outta here until things cool down. You Philly like fans aren't bringing me down.
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Its threads like these that make me long for the days before message boards and the internet.
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so will take him over sanchez, big ben, brady, flacco, brees, rodgers etc
Once again, how would we get any of those guys? You see elite QBs bumming around as free agents? Maybe Favre?
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Yeah, Tom Brady suxs he chunked 4 picks today against the frickin bills....1 was a pick 6 that pretty much costed them the game..some of you guys are just morons. I think i'm gonna do what Gwallia & stay away from these boards...too many dumbasses with knee jerk reactions.
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I don't think anyone is saying he sucks.. but, c'mon, let's be real here. Long term analysis, this guy will not win us a superbowl, unless our D starts playing like the 2000 Ravens team. The dude is way too inconsistent, hot and cold, jekyll and hyde

We need a actual franchise QB, if we are ever going to take that step to get our team where we want them to be
Did you not see how we moved the ball today? We scored 33 points. 33 points should be enough to win a game.
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If the team can't see that Schaub is a loser by now then they deserve what they get. They can cut him loose now and get started with the rebuild or they can give him 4 more years and wallow in mediocrity for those four years then start the rebuild.

I cannot think of a single quarterback out there that I wouldn't rather have.

To have the talent he has around him and to still be 10th in the league in ppg.

The team wins in spite of him, not because of him.
I would like to see Matt traded.

I would like to see him with a team that can play defense. He would be All-Pro.

How many Houston fans didnt think the defense was going to give up a TD in every posession in the fourth quarter?

Matt leads a drive to set up the win with 2 minutes left. What's my only thought?
ooops...We scored too quickly.

Let Matt go somewhere else. He dewserves it after the years he has suffered here.
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I don't think anyone is saying he sucks.. but, c'mon, let's be real here. Long term analysis, this guy will not win us a superbowl, unless our D starts playing like the 2000 Ravens team. The dude is way too inconsistent, hot and cold, jekyll and hyde

We need a actual franchise QB, if we are ever going to take that step to get our team where we want them to be
Then our only hope is that he improves, and gets more consistent and makes better decisions under pressure. I mean, what else are we supposed to do? We can keep improving our defense and hope to stay healthy. On offense, bringing in a healthy AF will help for sure.

I mean it's not as easy as going to the Franchise QB store and picking one up.
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so will take him over sanchez, big ben, brady, flacco, brees, rodgers etc
Can't believe you're saying you'd take Sanchez over Schaub, the dude has his faults but c'mon man Sanchez is holding the Jets back from being great not helping them to be really good.

Moving on to Schaub today, not that I think we should run him out of town or anything but he has a lot to work on for me.

This season he doesn't seem to have got into the zone with Andre, I've seen the ball bouncing out of AJ's hands too many times so far and logic leads me to believe that its Schaub's timing rather than AJ having hands of stone.

His pocket presence looks to have regressed somewhat, our O-line is built to concentrate on the run and is doing a very good job in that area but allows pressure to penetrate in Pass Pro.

Schaub doesn't do a good enough job of finding the check down when that happens, and frankly, when the line is setup the way it is, its on the QB to find a way of coping with that, we're not asking for Michael Vick or anything here, just feel the pressure coming and slide, and know where your RB is to get the ball out.

I definately believe all of these problems have come from Schaubs turnover problems earlier in his career, I think Kubiak designs the O to either get the 1st down or protect the ball.

I'm not sure we'll ever fully understand how good Schaub is tbh, in my mind there is the possibility that his elite numbers are genuine and he is a really good (not great) QB in a system which is designed to support the run as much as possible and then pass the ball. On the other hand he could be totally average in a great system that gets him the yardage. I really don't know, but I certainly wouldn't be looking to get rid of him while we have other priorities.
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I would like to see Matt traded.

I would like to see him with a team that can play defense. He would be All-Pro.

How many Houston fans didnt think the defense was going to give up a TD in every posession in the fourth quarter?

Matt leads a drive to set up the win with 2 minutes left. What's my only thought?
ooops...We scored too quickly.

Let Matt go somewhere else. He dewserves it after the years he has suffered here.
all pro maybe but if he goes to a team without a hall of fame WR (AJ) and an all pro TE (OD) and a very good RB (Tate or Foster) he will only be a below average QB.
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Cool story bro

Did you see how we were scoring the points when the Saints were slumping in the 1st half?
And that was Schaub's fault? What hope does a QB have in the redzone when we call plays that include having Slaton in the backfield, or just no RB at all?
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Schaub would be great if he never gets hit or had to scramble. Once he gets pressure he is toast and panicks. I still cant remember him making a throw and getting crunched as he is doing it because thats what it takes. Instead I see his feet get jittery and him short arm the ball for a skip pass or INT. He doesnt like to get his uniform dirty. Brees on the other hand is a tough little bastard and is willing to do whatever it takes to win.

Come on schaub grabbing his head like he had really been hit was embarrassing.
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so will take him over sanchez, big ben, brady, flacco, brees, rodgers etc
I'll TAKE HIM.. OVER FLACCO and SANCHEZ... for sure
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And that was Schaub's fault? What hope does a QB have in the redzone when we call plays that include having Slaton in the backfield, or just no RB at all?
Because Slaton can run the ball in or slip out to catch the ball and be overlooked by defense focusing on AJ and TEs.
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Did you not see how we moved the ball today? We scored 33 points. 33 points should be enough to win a game.
thirty three points is nothing in an offense driven league, saints avg 32 before this game and hit how many today
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Can't believe you're saying you'd take Sanchez over Schaub, the dude has his faults but c'mon man Sanchez is holding the Jets back from being great not helping them to be really good.

Moving on to Schaub today, not that I think we should run him out of town or anything but he has a lot to work on for me.

This season he doesn't seem to have got into the zone with Andre, I've seen the ball bouncing out of AJ's hands too many times so far and logic leads me to believe that its Schaub's timing rather than AJ having hands of stone.

His pocket presence looks to have regressed somewhat, our O-line is built to concentrate on the run and is doing a very good job in that area but allows pressure to penetrate in Pass Pro.

Schaub doesn't do a good enough job of finding the check down when that happens, and frankly, when the line is setup the way it is, its on the QB to find a way of coping with that, we're not asking for Michael Vick or anything here, just feel the pressure coming and slide, and know where your RB is to get the ball out.

I definately believe all of these problems have come from Schaubs turnover problems earlier in his career, I think Kubiak designs the O to either get the 1st down or protect the ball.

I'm not sure we'll ever fully understand how good Schaub is tbh, in my mind there is the possibility that his elite numbers are genuine and he is a really good (not great) QB in a system which is designed to support the run as much as possible and then pass the ball. On the other hand he could be totally average in a great system that gets him the yardage. I really don't know, but I certainly wouldn't be looking to get rid of him while we have other priorities.
is it just me or did sanchez beat peyton then brady last year in the PLAYOFFS, not saying anything just saying
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