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Old 12-01-2010   #1
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Jerome Bettis, RB (1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers)

Tim Brown, WR/KR (1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

Cris Carter, WR (1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins)

Don Coryell, Coach (1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers)

Roger Craig, RB (1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings)

Terrell Davis, RB (1995-2001 Denver Broncos)

Edward DeBartolo, Jr., Owner (1979-1997 San Francisco 49ers)

Dermontti Dawson, C (1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers)

Richard Dent, DE (1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles)

Chris Doleman, DE/LB (1985-1993, 1999 Minnesota Vikings, 1994-95 Atlanta Falcons, 1996-98 San Francisco 49ers)

Marshall Faulk, RB (1994-98 Indianapolis Colts, 1999-2005 St. Louis Rams)

Kevin Greene, LB/DE (1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers)

Ray Guy, P (1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Charles Haley, DE/LB (1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys)

Lester Hayes, CB (1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Cortez Kennedy, DT (1990-2000 Seattle Seahawks)

Curtis Martin, RB (1995-97 New England Patriots, 1998-2005 New York Jets)

Art Modell, Owner (1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2003 Baltimore Ravens)

Willie Roaf, OT (1993-2001 New Orleans Saints, 2002-05 Kansas City Chiefs)

Andre Reed, WR (1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins)

Ed Sabol, Contributor (1964-1995 NFL Films)

Deion Sanders, CB/KR/PR (1989-1993 Atlanta Falcons, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1995-99 Dallas Cowboys, 2000 Washington Redskins, 2004-05 Baltimore Ravens)

Shannon Sharpe, TE (1990-99, 2002-03 Denver Broncos, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens)

Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner (1989-2006 National Football League)

Aeneas Williams, CB/S (1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams)

George Young, Contributor (1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League)

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Jerome Bettis, RB (1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers)

Marshall Faulk, RB (1994-98 Indianapolis Colts, 1999-2005 St. Louis Rams)

Deion Sanders, CB/KR/PR (1989-1993 Atlanta Falcons, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1995-99 Dallas Cowboys, 2000 Washington Redskins, 2004-05 Baltimore Ravens)

Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner (1989-2006 National Football League)
While I do feel that others are deserving of making it as well, these jump out at me as being probable inductees this year.

In defense of all the others, each and every one of them are BETTER THAN VISTA.
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Jerome Bettis, RB (1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers)

Tim Brown, WR/KR (1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

Cris Carter, WR (1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins)

Don Coryell, Coach (1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers)

Roger Craig, RB (1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings)

Terrell Davis, RB (1995-2001 Denver Broncos)

Edward DeBartolo, Jr., Owner (1979-1997 San Francisco 49ers)

Dermontti Dawson, C (1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers)

Richard Dent, DE (1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles)

Chris Doleman, DE/LB (1985-1993, 1999 Minnesota Vikings, 1994-95 Atlanta Falcons, 1996-98 San Francisco 49ers)

Marshall Faulk, RB (1994-98 Indianapolis Colts, 1999-2005 St. Louis Rams)

Kevin Greene, LB/DE (1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers)

Ray Guy, P (1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Charles Haley, DE/LB (1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys)

Lester Hayes, CB (1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Cortez Kennedy, DT (1990-2000 Seattle Seahawks)

Curtis Martin, RB (1995-97 New England Patriots, 1998-2005 New York Jets)

Art Modell, Owner (1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2003 Baltimore Ravens)

Willie Roaf, OT (1993-2001 New Orleans Saints, 2002-05 Kansas City Chiefs)

Andre Reed, WR (1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins)

Ed Sabol, Contributor (1964-1995 NFL Films)

Deion Sanders, CB/KR/PR (1989-1993 Atlanta Falcons, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1995-99 Dallas Cowboys, 2000 Washington Redskins, 2004-05 Baltimore Ravens)

Shannon Sharpe, TE (1990-99, 2002-03 Denver Broncos, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens)

Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner (1989-2006 National Football League)

Aeneas Williams, CB/S (1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams)

George Young, Contributor (1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League)

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Faulk & Sanders definitely this year; they were just voted as 1 of the nfl's top 100, deion somewhere in the 20 - 40 range i believe.

as for the others:

Coryell just b/c he just died i believe & b/c of his influence on the game.

Dawson - token o-lineman of the group

Dent - token d-lineman of the group

& i'm calling it right now, Reed finally gets in over Carter.
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Curtis Martin will get in, in my opinion in his first year of eligibility.
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I am not sorry to say that Art Model is not better than Vista
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Deion, Faulk, Hayes, and Haley
Then give one to DeBartolo for showing everyone how to treat it's players and to do everything first class. Sabol should get some love for NFL Films

Roaf, Doleman, and Tim Brown are close with Brown probably the closest

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Where the ******* is Dr. Doom?

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Where the ******* is Dr. Doom?

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Brazile should absolutely be in! I think Guy should be in also.

I know a lot of people that don't think punters should qualify, but that dude was something special.
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Jerome Bettis, RB (1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers)

Tim Brown, WR/KR (1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

Cris Carter, WR (1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins)

Don Coryell, Coach (1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers)

Roger Craig, RB (1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings)

Terrell Davis, RB (1995-2001 Denver Broncos)

Edward DeBartolo, Jr., Owner (1979-1997 San Francisco 49ers)

Dermontti Dawson, C (1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers)

Richard Dent, DE (1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles)

Chris Doleman, DE/LB (1985-1993, 1999 Minnesota Vikings, 1994-95 Atlanta Falcons, 1996-98 San Francisco 49ers)

Marshall Faulk, RB (1994-98 Indianapolis Colts, 1999-2005 St. Louis Rams)

Kevin Greene, LB/DE (1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers)

Ray Guy, P (1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Charles Haley, DE/LB (1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys)

Lester Hayes, CB (1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Cortez Kennedy, DT (1990-2000 Seattle Seahawks)

Curtis Martin, RB (1995-97 New England Patriots, 1998-2005 New York Jets)

Art Modell, Owner (1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2003 Baltimore Ravens)

Willie Roaf, OT (1993-2001 New Orleans Saints, 2002-05 Kansas City Chiefs)

Andre Reed, WR (1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins)

Ed Sabol, Contributor (1964-1995 NFL Films)

Deion Sanders, CB/KR/PR (1989-1993 Atlanta Falcons, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1995-99 Dallas Cowboys, 2000 Washington Redskins, 2004-05 Baltimore Ravens)

Shannon Sharpe, TE (1990-99, 2002-03 Denver Broncos, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens)

Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner (1989-2006 National Football League)

Aeneas Williams, CB/S (1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams)

George Young, Contributor (1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League)

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I wish we could kick people out of the Hall of Fame (George Blanda, Bobby Layne anyone?) because there are some people that got in and I don't know how.

Anyways, the bolded people on this list SHOULD get in at some point, not sure about the others.
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I wish we could kick people out of the Hall of Fame (George Blanda, Bobby Layne anyone?) because there are some people that got in and I don't know how.

Anyways, the bolded people on this list SHOULD get in at some point, not sure about the others.
I was following and agreeing with most of your post until the bolded. That shows a true lack of knowledge of the history of the game.

Really? You think Bobby Layne doesn't belong? Nor does George Blanda?


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I was following and agreeing with most of your post until the bolded. That shows a true lack of knowledge of the history of the game.

Really? You think Bobby Layne doesn't belong? Nor does George Blanda?


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I wish we could kick people out of the Hall of Fame (George Blanda, Bobby Layne anyone?) because there are some people that got in and I don't know how.

Anyways, the bolded people on this list SHOULD get in at some point, not sure about the others.
I guess the sun didn't shine until 1990? Watch the cred go down with THAT post....



JB, I'm glad you mentioned Ray Guy, and where IS Dr Doom? He should be there.
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I was following and agreeing with most of your post until the bolded. That shows a true lack of knowledge of the history of the game.

Really? You think Bobby Layne doesn't belong? Nor does George Blanda?




Ok, hear me out and correct me if I'm wrong because I wasn't even born when these guys played. Bobby Layne may have had postseason success but how can you put a QB in the Hall of Fame who threw more career INTs than TDs?

As for George Blanda, yes he played until he was 300 years old but the man thre 40-something INTs in ONE SEASON! He doesn't have stats like QBs later on did and from what I've seen stats-wise there is nothing the impresses me.

Okay, maybe they DO deserve it because both QBs had postseason success and were icons of the game, but individually they had poor stats and were able to do what they did because of the players around them.
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These are the players I think deserve to go in. Can't comment on the non-players.

I think to be in the HoF you need to have been the very best player in your position at some stage in your career and you need to have a degree of longevity in the game.

Dermontti Dawson, C (1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers)

Richard Dent, DE (1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles)

Ray Guy, P (1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Lester Hayes, CB (1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Willie Roaf, OT (1993-2001 New Orleans Saints, 2002-05 Kansas City Chiefs)

Deion Sanders, CB/KR/PR (1989-1993 Atlanta Falcons, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1995-99 Dallas Cowboys, 2000 Washington Redskins, 2004-05 Baltimore Ravens)

Shannon Sharpe, TE (1990-99, 2002-03 Denver Broncos, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens)
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not sure about Deion?

He's in the conversation for best ever at his position.
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Edward DeBartolo, Jr.? Isnt he the owner that ran the 49er organization into the ground?
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He's in the conversation for best ever at his position.
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No crap man. Then when you see Willie Roaf's name on there, you sense how this is unjustified.
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Edward DeBartolo, Jr.? Isnt he the owner that ran the 49er organization into the ground?
Wasn't there alot of illegal crap he got busted for. Didn't he help bring the Browns back?
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Default Re: HOF Class of '11 Semi-Finalists

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Originally Posted by Texan4Ever View Post
Ok, hear me out and correct me if I'm wrong because I wasn't even born when these guys played. Bobby Layne may have had postseason success but how can you put a QB in the Hall of Fame who threw more career INTs than TDs?

As for George Blanda, yes he played until he was 300 years old but the man thre 40-something INTs in ONE SEASON! He doesn't have stats like QBs later on did and from what I've seen stats-wise there is nothing the impresses me.

Okay, maybe they DO deserve it because both QBs had postseason success and were icons of the game, but individually they had poor stats and were able to do what they did because of the players around them.
Not valid man. The Hall of Fame honors (as it should) people relative to their own era. Layne and Blanda were 2 of the best QBs of their era, so they are in.

I suggest watching some old time games, and seeing how the game was played back then. INTs were fairly common, as the WCO did not exist. When teams passed, they usually went for the gold.
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