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Old 11-23-2010   #1
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I don't understand why you do it.

Kubiak isn't going anywhere. You know McNair isn't going to fire him.

Unless something happens in December with the CBA, we can go 4-12, & Kubiak won't go anywhere.

Contrary to popular belief, I don't care if Kubiak stays or goes. I think he's had more than enough time to build this team, things aren't going well for him right now.

I want this team to be a winner more than I want Kubiak to be successful. Believe that.

But since I firmly believe Kubiak isn't going anywhere, mainly because of the CBA & McNair needs to hire a football guy before he hires his next coach anyway, I'm going to hold out hope beyond hope that this team turns it around.

I think chances are better that we'll finish 10-6, than Kubiak will be fired even if we finish 4-12.
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I don't understand why you do it.

Kubiak isn't going anywhere. You know McNair isn't going to fire him.
This sounds eerily similar to what a lot of people were saying about Richard Smith the year before he got canned. I doubt McNair wants to fire him but if we don't make the playoffs I don't see how he survives.
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I don't understand why you do it.

Kubiak isn't going anywhere. You know McNair isn't going to fire him.

Unless something happens in December with the CBA, we can go 4-12, & Kubiak won't go anywhere.

Contrary to popular belief, I don't care if Kubiak stays or goes. I think he's had more than enough time to build this team, things aren't going well for him right now.

I want this team to be a winner more than I want Kubiak to be successful. Believe that.

But since I firmly believe Kubiak isn't going anywhere, mainly because of the CBA & McNair needs to hire a football guy before he hires his next coach anyway, I'm going to hold out hope beyond hope that this team turns it around.

I think chances are better that we'll finish 10-6, than Kubiak will be fired even if we finish 4-12.
I wouldn't be opposed to Kubiak getting the Mangini treatment, as long
as Mcnair hires a competent football man to take control out of Kubiak's
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If the status quo remains <Kubiak retains total control>, I'll be livid.
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next 3 weeks will or should shape what Bob has in mind (if he hasn't already)

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then two prime time games against Philly and the Ravens

for the record, I like Kubiak as an offensive coach. Obviously Bob and Kubiak hopefully realize that they need a proven Defensive coordinator her ..The players are young and the coaching staff within the system (if you call it that) are as young or younger. Obviously a good Defensive coordinator will mask some of the flaws that Gary has.

If Kubiak is gone, so be it but they need to bring in a big name coach in here (I wouldn't be against keeping the Offensive coaches here) .
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I wouldn't be opposed to Kubiak getting the Mangini treatment, as long
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If the status quo remains <Kubiak retains total control>, I'll be livid.
If I were McNair, my mind would already be made up to do this. I don't know if Dan Reeves is that guy, or Ray Rhodes (doubt it), Parcells?? Buddy Ryan...... Maybe a Pioli.... .

But before he hires his next head coach, or decide to keep/fire Rick Smith, he needs a football person to help him make that decision.
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If I were McNair, my mind would already be made up to do this. I don't know if Dan Reeves is that guy, or Ray Rhodes (doubt it), Parcells?? Buddy Ryan...... Maybe a Pioli.... .

But before he hires his next head coach, or decide to keep/fire Rick Smith, he needs a football person to help him make that decision.
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Yes!

Well, at the end of the day, we're pulling for a city, a logo, and a uniform. With that in mind, I feel it is more appropriate to say "I support this particular batch of laundry!"
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Im there with ya TK..Kubes isnt going anywhere unless the CBA worked out and they have the replacement already comitted (you guys know that happens despite rooney rule)

As I have stated until Kubiak takes steps backward and has a worse record than the year before a firing isnt warrented. I am of the opinion that a change of coaching is changing the whole franchise offense included. and in our division change is not a good thing. Each team has had a universal constant . Peyton, Fisher and Del Rio and the only team to make coaching changes the Texans and if we fire Kubiak that would be two and we would be firing a guy just for the HOPE of getting Cowher and we would push reset on this franchise again. I dont bellieve we are in a divsion that a change will mean from worst to first, nor do I believe it will guarantee we will make the playoffs.(AFC is pretty darn good)

Until Kubiak has a sub .500 season and/or 1-5 in division again and season is over, I reserve judgement. I think a great dc and new GM might be a better solution
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I don't understand why you do it.

Kubiak isn't going anywhere. You know McNair isn't going to fire him.

Unless something happens in December with the CBA, we can go 4-12, & Kubiak won't go anywhere.

Contrary to popular belief, I don't care if Kubiak stays or goes. I think he's had more than enough time to build this team, things aren't going well for him right now.

I want this team to be a winner more than I want Kubiak to be successful. Believe that.

But since I firmly believe Kubiak isn't going anywhere, mainly because of the CBA & McNair needs to hire a football guy before he hires his next coach anyway, I'm going to hold out hope beyond hope that this team turns it around.

I think chances are better that we'll finish 10-6, than Kubiak will be fired even if we finish 4-12.
Sure, he'll turn it around in the last 4 games like he always does.

You're high again

BTW, I think Kubiak will be back next season too, but not due to the CBA. It has to do with McNair holding on to suckage a year or two longer than he should.

Heck, I'm beginning to think we'll be going status quo at DC too. Do you think Kubiak has the sack to fire his buddy? I don't
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Im there with ya TK..Kubes isnt going anywhere unless the CBA worked out and they have the replacement already comitted (you guys know that happens despite rooney rule)

As I have stated until Kubiak takes steps backward and has a worse record than the year before a firing isnt warrented. I am of the opinion that a change of coaching is changing the whole franchise offense included. and in our division change is not a good thing. Each team has had a universal constant . Peyton, Fisher and Del Rio and the only team to make coaching changes the Texans and if we fire Kubiak that would be two and we would be firing a guy just for the HOPE of getting Cowher and we would push reset on this franchise again. I dont bellieve we are in a divsion that a change will mean from worst to first, nor do I believe it will guarantee we will make the playoffs.(AFC is pretty darn good)

Until Kubiak has a sub .500 season and/or 1-5 in division again and season is over, I reserve judgement. I think a great dc and new GM might be a better solution
Be patient. This team is going to finish 6-10 and probably 2-4 in the division. it will also not play any meaningful games after October per usual.

Kubiak can go screw himself for all I care. Nice and being a Texan isn't enough. Just win.
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Sure, he'll turn it around in the last 4 games like he always does.

You're high again

BTW, I think Kubiak will be back next season too, but not due to the CBA. It has to do with McNair holding on to suckage a year or two longer than he should.

Heck, I'm beginning to think we'll be going status quo at DC too. Do you think Kubiak has the sack to fire his buddy? I don't

He goes or you both go, no problem.
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Loser talk.

I find it hard to believe you're a season ticket holder, to be honest. The season ticket holders I know are DONE.
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Sure, he'll turn it around in the last 4 games like he always does.

You're high again

BTW, I think Kubiak will be back next season too, but not due to the CBA. It has to do with McNair holding on to suckage a year or two longer than he should.

Heck, I'm beginning to think we'll be going status quo at DC too. Do you think Kubiak has the sack to fire his buddy? I don't
No but Rick Smith has the sack to do it when McNair directs him to do so. I really believe that will be the extent of the firings. If McNair were to hire a Football Operations guru to run the show with Smith just handling contract negotiations, Kubiak running the offense and the new hard nosed DC (given the proper tools) implementing a real NFL defense, we have a winning NFL team. JMHO
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As long as this doesn't turn into a Minnesota situation, McNair will keep Smith/Kubiak. And no, Kubiak will not sack Bush on his own (did i say sack bush?), but McNair may force a change at DC after the season. Nothing happens to the Smithiak unless the 2011 season implodes. Depressing.
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I don't understand why you do it.

Kubiak isn't going anywhere. You know McNair isn't going to fire him.

Unless something happens in December with the CBA, we can go 4-12, & Kubiak won't go anywhere.

Contrary to popular belief, I don't care if Kubiak stays or goes. I think he's had more than enough time to build this team, things aren't going well for him right now.

I want this team to be a winner more than I want Kubiak to be successful. Believe that.

But since I firmly believe Kubiak isn't going anywhere, mainly because of the CBA & McNair needs to hire a football guy before he hires his next coach anyway, I'm going to hold out hope beyond hope that this team turns it around.

I think chances are better that we'll finish 10-6, than Kubiak will be fired even if we finish 4-12.
I agree, TK. Short of an overwhelming fan rebellion that directly relates to the bottom line of this franchise, I do not see Kubiak going anywhere in 2011. They will scapegoat Bush and buy Kubiak another year (or two) with the excuse of implementing a new defensive scheme.

It's wishful thinking on the part of the fan base that we see a proven HC in 2011 in a Texans shirt, but I just don't think McNair is that kind of owner. He has the patience of a cat.

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Sure, he'll turn it around in the last 4 games like he always does.

You're high again

BTW, I think Kubiak will be back next season too, but not due to the CBA. It has to do with McNair holding on to suckage a year or two longer than he should.

Heck, I'm beginning to think we'll be going status quo at DC too. Do you think Kubiak has the sack to fire his buddy? I don't
yep. The owner's M.O. has always been to give suckage the benefit of the doubt. He hated to fire Capers, he hated to see HWWNBN go, and he will do the same with Kubiak. I am resigned to this fate as a Texans fan. It is what it is.

The fact of the matter is that our team is "that" team in the NFL now. The cellar dwellers, the perpetual bridesmaid, the pretenders who desperately want to be contenders but never are, the aquarium's sucker fish. We've become a laughing stock, but it's not funny. The emperor obviously has no clothes on, but our owner is blind at midnight in a cave. He's always the last one to "get it".
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I agree, TK. Short of an overwhelming fan rebellion that directly relates to the bottom line of this franchise, I do not see Kubiak going anywhere in 2011. They will scapegoat Bush and buy Kubiak another year (or two) with the excuse of implementing a new defensive scheme.

It's wishful thinking on the part of the fan base that we see a proven HC in 2011 in a Texans shirt, but I just don't think McNair is that kind of owner. He has the patience of a cat.



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yep. The owner's M.O. has always been to give suckage the benefit of the doubt. He hated to fire Capers, he hated to see HWWNBN go, and he will do the same with Kubiak. I am resigned to this fate as a Texans fan. It is what it is.

The fact of the matter is that our team is "that" team in the NFL now. The cellar dwellers, the perpetual bridesmaid, the pretenders who desperately want to be contenders but never are, the aquarium's sucker fish. We've become a laughing stock, but it's not funny. The emperor obviously has no clothes on, but our owner is blind at midnight in a cave. He's always the last one to "get it".
Welp, I feel better now.
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The fact of the matter is that our team is "that" team in the NFL now. The cellar dwellers, the perpetual bridesmaid, the pretenders who desperately want to be contenders but never are, the aquarium's sucker fish. We've become a laughing stock, but it's not funny. The emperor obviously has no clothes on, but our owner is blind at midnight in a cave. He's always the last one to "get it".
No doubt they are "that team". All the fans of playoff contenders are circling the Texans on their remaining schedules and penciling in a little "w". Then they are logging into their fantasy football site to see if any of the Texans next opponent's top four or five receivers are somehow still available.

But let's be proud of our "vision" when Bob proves the rightness of our faith by choosing more losing instead of fixing what is wrong with the team. Embrace the inept; it has a bull on its helmet!
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