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HTown2ATX · 11-22-2010

Simple question:

Given that we should have a new coach next year, how long until new coach gets us to playoffs considering the garbage we have in the secondary and possible scheme changes with a new coach?

I say 2 years only because there is too much garbage on the D to get rid of.

Plus this is the Texans we're talking about. Good things just don't happen, so I don't expect us to be one of these teams that all the sudden just wins with a new coach in year 1....that takes real sugar coating and heavily tinted rose glasses which I grew out of a long time ago.

Of course, should Kubiak and the Denny's menu still be here next year, this question doesn't matter as we'll be going another few years for sure without playoffs as we ride out Kubiaks extension.

**Thorn** · 11-22-2010

I voted two years, but let's hope we don't get another failure at the head coaching position. Now that would really suck.

**3rd and Inches** · 11-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by HTown2ATX

Simple question:

Given that we should have a new coach next year, how long until new coach gets us to playoffs considering the garbage we have in the secondary and possible scheme changes with a new coach?

At the pessimistic point I'm at right now.. I'd say..

DexmanC · 11-22-2010

I was leaning towards "Next year with a new coach," but I have
no faith in this ownership group to select the right coach, or fire
the current one.

If they hire the RIGHT coach, then the sky is the limit for this team.
The talent is there, but this team is EXTREMELY mentally lax in crucial situations.

TrueTexanFan · 11-22-2010

FIRE KUBIAK AND THE WE CAN TALK!!

gafftop · 11-22-2010

Next season with a new head coach. The Texans could maybe make it next year with a DC change, but you would still have the Kubiak mindset as head coach and the Texans would never get to the Super Bowl or go deep in the playoffs. He does not understand you play to win all the time. The difference between winning and losing is razor thin in the NFL.

HTown2ATX · 11-22-2010

So majority of people so far think next year? Really?

Even with the garbage on Defense we need to turn over. A possible lockout that keeps the new coach from getting with the team early next year. The losing mentality of this fanchise.

Next year? Really?

Please someone explain the reasoning to me. I'm not attacking anyone, I seriously don't see it and want to be convinced.

I WANT to see the playoffs next year but I don't think that's a for real possibility.

**scourge** · 11-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by HTown2ATX

Simple question:

Given that we should have a new coach next year, how long until new coach gets us to playoffs considering the garbage we have in the secondary and possible scheme changes with a new coach?

I say 2 years only because there is too much garbage on the D to get rid of.

Plus this is the Texans we're talking about. Good things just don't happen, so I don't expect us to be one of these teams that all the sudden just wins with a new coach in year 1....that takes real sugar coating and heavily tinted rose glasses which I grew out of a long time ago.

Of course, should Kubiak and the Denny's menu still be here next year, this question doesn't matter as we'll be going another few years for sure without playoffs as we ride out Kubiaks extension.

Should have and will are two separate things. Not so sure McNair will make the right call. I voted for next year with a new coach, but probably looking at 2 years if we make the switch from 4-3 to 3-4.

Blake · 11-22-2010

I voted 4+ years. I dont think McNair fires Kubiak. And he wastes 1-2 more years. Then we get a new coach who brings in a rookie QB and that takes 2-3 years. So 5 years?

steelbtexan · 11-22-2010

Dont know who the HC is going to be.

Kubes 4+ yrs

Proven winner running the organization (Parcells,Gruden,Billick SP?) 1/2rs

Nawzer · 11-22-2010

If we just had an average defense like we did last year we would've been in the playoffs this year.

Mr teX · 11-22-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by DexmanC

I was leaning towards "Next year with a new coach," but I have
no faith in this ownership group to select the right coach, or fire
the current one.

If they hire the RIGHT coach, then the sky is the limit for this team.
The talent is there, but this team is EXTREMELY mentally lax in crucial situations.

You seriously saying we have enough talent in the secondary to be able to fix this defense in 1 off-season? 2 years unless they hit FA really hard which is unlikely.

burro · 11-22-2010

In a couple of years when McNair finally comes around to the realization that Kubiak is a substandard coach who has built a substandard team. I'll guess the 2015 season, which would be the second year of who ever our new coach would be.

Norg · 11-22-2010

i remember some guy sayin a while back 2011 or 2012 is when we will make it

hes sounding more and more right becasue he was saying that back in 2008

**Texanmike02** · 11-22-2010

I think that what we saw from the front seven this week only confims what I've thought all along. The secondary of this team is a SERIOUS problem. We need a playmaker at the S spot... and a CB that can take on the other team's number 1 receiver. If we could somehow get that this year I think we could still make the playoffs in this division. Obviously that won't happen but I don't see where we have more than one offseason to fix that.

I'll even say that for the most part this year... we haven't let the wheels fall off (the Cowpies and the Giants games not witstanding) and this team has actually shown some heart late in games (the last two and the washington games as examples). This team isn't that far.

This team is a bouqet of roses with 3 turd flowers. You get rid of those turd flowers and this team is suddenly just fine. That said, any group of flowers is terrible if there is a turd in it.

Mike

Ole Miss Texan · 11-22-2010

I think McNair is going to keep Kubiak as the Head Coach.
I think we're going to hire a new Defensive Coordinator.
I think we're going to make some sort of acquisition (veteran FA?) to for the secondary, most likely someone the new DC knows.

I think we'll see mild improvement in the secondary and that will have a huge effect on the overall defense. This in turn will really change how we're playing games and help our offense out a lot.

I think we'll make the playoffs next season.

Dread-Head · 11-22-2010

Can't access the Jim Mora clip I want to post from work...

wagonhed · 11-22-2010

I voted next year. That's assuming we have a new HC and coaching staff.

Texas T · 11-22-2010

I voted 4+, been a Houston fan my whole life...nuff said.

AndreRulz · 11-22-2010

I say 2 years

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11-22-2010	#1
HTown2ATX TexansMetalhead Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 3,172 Rep Power: 11373	How long until Texans make the playoffs? Simple question: Given that we should have a new coach next year, how long until new coach gets us to playoffs considering the garbage we have in the secondary and possible scheme changes with a new coach? I say 2 years only because there is too much garbage on the D to get rid of. Plus this is the Texans we're talking about. Good things just don't happen, so I don't expect us to be one of these teams that all the sudden just wins with a new coach in year 1....that takes real sugar coating and heavily tinted rose glasses which I grew out of a long time ago. Of course, should Kubiak and the Denny's menu still be here next year, this question doesn't matter as we'll be going another few years for sure without playoffs as we ride out Kubiaks extension. __________________ sig = False Start "We finally did it man, we made it!"..Me..as I hugged random Texans fans after the Texans clinched AFC South

11-22-2010	#2
Thorn Dirty Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston Section: Restrained in the mental ward Age: 61 Posts: 18,159 Rep Power: 53854	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? I voted two years, but let's hope we don't get another failure at the head coaching position. Now that would really suck. __________________ "Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." --- John Wayne

11-22-2010	#4
DexmanC Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,422 Rep Power: 13826	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? I was leaning towards "Next year with a new coach," but I have no faith in this ownership group to select the right coach, or fire the current one. If they hire the RIGHT coach, then the sky is the limit for this team. The talent is there, but this team is EXTREMELY mentally lax in crucial situations. __________________ R.I.P. EXCUSES (2006-2009) The First Twelve Games (Where Playoff Teams Are Made): 2007: (5-7) \| 2008: (5-7) \| 2009: (5-7) \| 2010: (5-7) \| 2011: (9-3)

11-22-2010	#5
TrueTexanFan Rookie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: HOUSTON Section: 501 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? FIRE KUBIAK AND THE WE CAN TALK!!

11-22-2010	#6
gafftop Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 55 Posts: 1,292 Rep Power: 1844	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? Next season with a new head coach. The Texans could maybe make it next year with a DC change, but you would still have the Kubiak mindset as head coach and the Texans would never get to the Super Bowl or go deep in the playoffs. He does not understand you play to win all the time. The difference between winning and losing is razor thin in the NFL.

11-22-2010	#9
Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,580 Rep Power: 14926	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? I voted 4+ years. I dont think McNair fires Kubiak. And he wastes 1-2 more years. Then we get a new coach who brings in a rookie QB and that takes 2-3 years. So 5 years? __________________

11-22-2010	#10
steelbtexan Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 50 Posts: 8,863 Rep Power: 22920	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? Dont know who the HC is going to be. Kubes 4+ yrs Proven winner running the organization (Parcells,Gruden,Billick SP?) 1/2rs

11-22-2010	#11
Nawzer Alienz Join Date: May 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 30 Posts: 6,082 Rep Power: 14368	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? If we just had an average defense like we did last year we would've been in the playoffs this year. __________________ Fortune favors the brave NOT the stupid!

11-22-2010	#13
burro Red-billy. Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Irving TX Posts: 902 Rep Power: 1847	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? In a couple of years when McNair finally comes around to the realization that Kubiak is a substandard coach who has built a substandard team. I'll guess the 2015 season, which would be the second year of who ever our new coach would be. __________________ strength. honor. victory.

11-22-2010	#14
Norg Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,886 Rep Power: 2454	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? i remember some guy sayin a while back 2011 or 2012 is when we will make it hes sounding more and more right becasue he was saying that back in 2008

11-22-2010	#15
Texanmike02 Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 35 Posts: 7,098 Rep Power: 28775	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? I think that what we saw from the front seven this week only confims what I've thought all along. The secondary of this team is a SERIOUS problem. We need a playmaker at the S spot... and a CB that can take on the other team's number 1 receiver. If we could somehow get that this year I think we could still make the playoffs in this division. Obviously that won't happen but I don't see where we have more than one offseason to fix that. I'll even say that for the most part this year... we haven't let the wheels fall off (the Cowpies and the Giants games not witstanding) and this team has actually shown some heart late in games (the last two and the washington games as examples). This team isn't that far. This team is a bouqet of roses with 3 turd flowers. You get rid of those turd flowers and this team is suddenly just fine. That said, any group of flowers is terrible if there is a turd in it. Mike __________________ Sig by False Start - Thanks man Govern my country, NOT MY LIFE!

11-22-2010	#16
Ole Miss Texan Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,632 Rep Power: 10804	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? I think McNair is going to keep Kubiak as the Head Coach. I think we're going to hire a new Defensive Coordinator. I think we're going to make some sort of acquisition (veteran FA?) to for the secondary, most likely someone the new DC knows. I think we'll see mild improvement in the secondary and that will have a huge effect on the overall defense. This in turn will really change how we're playing games and help our offense out a lot. I think we'll make the playoffs next season.

11-22-2010	#17
Dread-Head Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston Texas baby! Age: 43 Posts: 12,671 Rep Power: 42573	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? Can't access the Jim Mora clip I want to post from work... __________________ Why attack a man for his race or religion when there are so many other PERFECTLY good reasons? Dread-Head. Texan from DAY ONE & PROUD Honorary Blue Crew member..."Damn it Bill!"

11-22-2010	#18
wagonhed Team Gruden Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Denton Age: 29 Posts: 2,455 Rep Power: 1891	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? I voted next year. That's assuming we have a new HC and coaching staff. __________________

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Texas T Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wichita, KS Age: 40 Posts: 1,708 Rep Power: 11697	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? I voted 4+, been a Houston fan my whole life...nuff said.

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AndreRulz Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Age: 25 Posts: 242 Rep Power: 7	Re: How long until Texans make the playoffs? I say 2 years __________________ Lady lover, especially cheerleaders. Pollard and AJ both are "the man".

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