Who would Cass move up for besides DJ ? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

nunusguy · 04-02-2005

We all know the Texans covet DJ, but I wonder if there is someone else out there that they have their eye on. Someone else who wouldn't cost us as much as DJ. Recall last year, I don't think anyone had a clue about their interest in Babin. Maybe they think Mike Williams would be the perfect complement for AJ or think that Merriman is such a physical freak
that its worth the conversion process to get the big time edge rusher they
still seek. Cass has that Xtra 3rd rounder to burn - that should be enough
to move him up ahead of our intrastate rival if the right player is still
on the Board at #9.

DRIFTAWAY · 04-02-2005

the player we are most likely to trade up for is Cedric Benson IMO. But with the releasing of Sharper, DJ or Merriman seems a possibility, even though if we were to trade up for a linebacker we would make it DJ. Mike Williams will go before Braylon Edwards so we might trade up for Edwards.

Most likely to trade up for:
1. Benson
2. DJ
3. Merriman
4. Edwards

cptnbreakdance · 04-02-2005

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Originally Posted by DRIFTAWAY

the player we are most likely to trade up for is Cedric Benson IMO. But with the releasing of Sharper, DJ or Merriman seems a possibility, even though if we were to trade up for a linebacker we would make it DJ. Mike Williams will go before Braylon Edwards so we might trade up for Edwards.

Most likely to trade up for:
1. Benson
2. DJ
3. Merriman
4. Edwards

I would add Mike Williams to that list.

Rosusu · 04-02-2005

I dont think they would trade up for Benson, I think if he is available at 13 you take him but I dont see them moving to get him. I like Benson a lot and would love to have him on our team, but not for a high cost when we already have a solid runningback who has been doing well.

Wolf · 04-02-2005

I for one will be suprised if we traded up for a RB... I just don't see it..I don't know at this point I don't like the idea of trading up and giving up picks.. maybe it is because I have read so much hype about all the players.... but i'd like to come out of this draft with a CB,C, DL or LB.. with this draft

If we are to move up, I'd like to see us move up from the 2nd round and get Bass or use one of our 3rds to get wilkerson..(baring he is healthy)

**ArlingtonTexan** · 04-02-2005

If have read between Casserly's line correctly, he is not interested in Mike williams. Think I remember him saying that you have use him correctly, and that he may grow into a H-back.

Not sure if I am buying Merriman as much as I was earlier. The closer i look at him, he reminds of a defensive Barron, a physical freak with good, but not great production.

IMO, the texans would draft a RB, but would not trade up to do so.

Hottoddie · 04-02-2005

I don't think they'd move up for Benson or Edwards, but DJ & Merriman could be a different story, if it doesn't cost too much. No matter what happens, the Texans will pick up a player, that should contribute significantly before the end of the year, with the 13th pick. That's why I don't believe they'll sell the house to move up in the draft.

Barring a move up for DJ or Merriman, I could see us doing another move up, like we did for Babin last year, to get Baas or Justin Tuck.

I'd prefer that we went after Spencer in a later round (3rd), rather than give up picks for Baas, but I'd be happy either way.

We might be able to get Tuck in the early part of the 2nd round. I just don't think he'll be on the board at our 2nd pick (#47). He's an intriguing player. With his speed, quickness, & pass rushing skills, he could play OLB opposite of Babin. At 6'5" 268lbs & still growing, he could be the next Jevon Kearse, or better.

royce1054 · 04-02-2005

Justin Tuck will be there at #47. Mike Roth could slip to early 2nd round. We need a #2, a CB that can start next year and can learn this year. We need OLB that can pass rush, depth SS an OL-man incase Wand cant handle the position. WR and OLB are the only 2 positions where i think we can draft some one and that person step in and play every down.

Number19 · 04-02-2005

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Originally Posted by Hottoddie

...I'd prefer that we went after Spencer in a later round (3rd), rather than give up picks for Baas...

There's been a few rumblings about Spencer possibly going late in the first. I personally don't think this will materialize. But there is a very good chance he will be off the board in the second. Besides the Texans, there are several teams needing to upgrade at center. We may have a chance at Spencer at #47, but he could also go a few picks before. Better to move up closer to the top of the second.

Hottoddie · 04-02-2005

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Originally Posted by royce1054

Justin Tuck will be there at #47. Mike Roth could slip to early 2nd round. We need a #2, a CB that can start next year and can learn this year. We need OLB that can pass rush, depth SS an OL-man incase Wand cant handle the position. WR and OLB are the only 2 positions where i think we can draft some one and that person step in and play every down.

And you know for sure that Tuck will be there at our #47 pick, how? I disagree & will stick by my belief that he'll go late 1st or early 2nd, & before our #47 pick.

D-ReK · 04-02-2005

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Originally Posted by Hottoddie

And you know for sure that Tuck will be there at our #47 pick, how? I disagree & will stick by my belief that he'll go late 1st or early 2nd, & before our #47 pick.

You didn't know? Royce has "sources" that he has decided to keep anonymous

...

FWIW I could see Tuck going anywhere from 17 to 41 at the absolute latest...Most likely he'll go in the 20s, IMO...

WildBlackBear32 · 04-02-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Maybe they think Mike Williams would be the perfect complement for AJ or think that Merriman is such a physical freak
that its worth the conversion process to get the big time edge rusher they
still seek.

I'd be ALL about moving up for Mike Williams. You got one fast freak on the right(AJ), one BIG freak on the left(BMW), DCarr would have a field day with that kind of offense.

Merriman is still a question mark to me. Love the size and speed, I just think he'd be a bit raw as a rookie in the 3-4 system. The prospectus of Babin and Merriman on the outside would be pretty sweet in the long run though.

I'd list my tradeup hopefuls...

1.DJ
2.BMW
3.Benson
4.Merriman
5.Rolle

Hottoddie · 04-02-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number19

There's been a few rumblings about Spencer possibly going late in the first. I personally don't think this will materialize. But there is a very good chance he will be off the board in the second. Besides the Texans, there are several teams needing to upgrade at center. We may have a chance at Spencer at #47, but he could also go a few picks before. Better to move up closer to the top of the second.

It wouldn't surprise me if he went sooner, but I don't think I'd trade up to take him. I'd just have to shift my attention to one of the other center prospects like, Jason Brown, Richie Incognito, Eric Ghiaciuc, Robert Hunt, or Ben Wilkerson (assuming he's healthy). I'd rather use my first 2 picks on defense.

Hottoddie · 04-02-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-ReK

You didn't know? Royce has "sources" that he has decided to keep anonymous

...

FWIW I could see Tuck going anywhere from 17 to 41 at the absolute latest...Most likely he'll go in the 20s, IMO...

Yea, I've read a few of his posts & most of them seem to start out with "What I'm hearing..." & "My sources say....". If they're just opinions, then he should say they are just opinions. After all, we all have them.

There's a guy I work with (sorry, can't reveal my source

) who's son goes to Notre Dame, that isn't real high on Tucker. But, I can't help but get excited about his potential in the NFL. He's improved his game every year & if he gets in the right system, he could be the next version of Jevon Kearse, Julius Peppers, Kevin Greene, or Willie McGinest. But hey, that's just my opinion.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 04-02-2005

My sources tell me the Texans want to improve their pass rush.

D-ReK · 04-02-2005

What I'm hearing is that the Texans want to protect David Carr

...

**texasguy346** · 04-02-2005

I've got the best sources on this board, and get this....my sources tell me that......

The Texans play their home games in RELIANT STADIUM!! Keep that to yourselves though because we wouldn't want other NFL teams to figure out where we play our games. It would be disasterous.

Hottoddie · 04-02-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by texasguy346

I've got the best sources on this board, and get this....my sources tell me that......

Oh yea? Well, my sources know who your sources are. I guess that means I have the best sources on this board.

DRIFTAWAY · 04-02-2005

BREAKING NEWS: My ever so credible sources are now telling me that

... The Texans will be choosing a player in the 1rst round of this year's draft.

**beerlover** · 04-02-2005

those Who Know Won't Say & Those Who Say Don't Know

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nunusguy Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston Posts: 8,991 Rep Power: 183	Who would Cass move up for besides DJ ? We all know the Texans covet DJ, but I wonder if there is someone else out there that they have their eye on. Someone else who wouldn't cost us as much as DJ. Recall last year, I don't think anyone had a clue about their interest in Babin. Maybe they think Mike Williams would be the perfect complement for AJ or think that Merriman is such a physical freak that its worth the conversion process to get the big time edge rusher they still seek. Cass has that Xtra 3rd rounder to burn - that should be enough to move him up ahead of our intrastate rival if the right player is still on the Board at #9.

04-02-2005	#5
Wolf 100% Texan Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kerrville Age: 43 Posts: 35,837 Rep Power: 40809	I for one will be suprised if we traded up for a RB... I just don't see it..I don't know at this point I don't like the idea of trading up and giving up picks.. maybe it is because I have read so much hype about all the players.... but i'd like to come out of this draft with a CB,C, DL or LB.. with this draft If we are to move up, I'd like to see us move up from the 2nd round and get Bass or use one of our 3rds to get wilkerson..(baring he is healthy) __________________ People who say that they don't know what to get me for my birthday have obviously never been to a liquor store

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DRIFTAWAY All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southeast Houston Age: 61 Posts: 996 Rep Power: 9	the player we are most likely to trade up for is Cedric Benson IMO. But with the releasing of Sharper, DJ or Merriman seems a possibility, even though if we were to trade up for a linebacker we would make it DJ. Mike Williams will go before Braylon Edwards so we might trade up for Edwards. Most likely to trade up for: 1. Benson 2. DJ 3. Merriman 4. Edwards

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Rosusu All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Columba, SC GO GAMECOCKS! Age: 27 Posts: 535 Rep Power: 9	I dont think they would trade up for Benson, I think if he is available at 13 you take him but I dont see them moving to get him. I like Benson a lot and would love to have him on our team, but not for a high cost when we already have a solid runningback who has been doing well. __________________ In Kubiak I trust!

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ArlingtonTexan Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 5,261 Rep Power: 19464	If have read between Casserly's line correctly, he is not interested in Mike williams. Think I remember him saying that you have use him correctly, and that he may grow into a H-back. Not sure if I am buying Merriman as much as I was earlier. The closer i look at him, he reminds of a defensive Barron, a physical freak with good, but not great production. IMO, the texans would draft a RB, but would not trade up to do so.

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Hottoddie Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Location: Houston Age: 54 Posts: 1,205 Rep Power: 503	I don't think they'd move up for Benson or Edwards, but DJ & Merriman could be a different story, if it doesn't cost too much. No matter what happens, the Texans will pick up a player, that should contribute significantly before the end of the year, with the 13th pick. That's why I don't believe they'll sell the house to move up in the draft. Barring a move up for DJ or Merriman, I could see us doing another move up, like we did for Babin last year, to get Baas or Justin Tuck. I'd prefer that we went after Spencer in a later round (3rd), rather than give up picks for Baas, but I'd be happy either way. We might be able to get Tuck in the early part of the 2nd round. I just don't think he'll be on the board at our 2nd pick (#47). He's an intriguing player. With his speed, quickness, & pass rushing skills, he could play OLB opposite of Babin. At 6'5" 268lbs & still growing, he could be the next Jevon Kearse, or better.

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royce1054 All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: HOUSTON Age: 31 Posts: 900 Rep Power: 9	Justin Tuck will be there at #47. Mike Roth could slip to early 2nd round. We need a #2, a CB that can start next year and can learn this year. We need OLB that can pass rush, depth SS an OL-man incase Wand cant handle the position. WR and OLB are the only 2 positions where i think we can draft some one and that person step in and play every down.

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STEEL BLUE TEXANS Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 5,327 Rep Power: 1832	My sources tell me the Texans want to improve their pass rush.

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