keep kubiak

[Dishman]

Originally Posted by MojoX

I am with you on this. I think Kubiak has been a fine coach and if fired will go on to success like some for Texans players. I hate to see this team, the fans, Kubiak and McNair let down by bone headed coaching by an incompetent defensive staff. Really, this team is one good DC away....

As Head Coach Gary Kubiak had the opportunity of fixing this defense several years ago. His solution was to promote Frank Bush. He also has allowed Alex Gibbs to remain the DB coach.

Enough is enough. That bone-headed coaching you refer to is a product of Texan's HC Gary Kubiak.

[Pantherstang84]

Originally Posted by MFG16

I think its a little funny that once expectations are high and the coaches start making mistakes people want them fired, but when they make the same mistakes when expectation are low the teams "growing" or "getting better". I mean really how many times have the texans under kubiak lost a game in the final seconds? (whether they blew a lead or came back to lose) How many times has Peyton come back from 17 to win? How many times have the Titans come back with a last second field goal or a VY splitting of the texans D like the red sea?? The Jags?? its ridiculous, and it all falls on the HC and the mentality he instills in his players. You really want to keep that? really? I say fire frank bush and david gibbs NOW, and make rhodes the D cord for the rest of the season. Fire kubiak at the end of the season, whether theres football next year or not, and hire someone whos not an offensive Cord at best.

[cdollaz]

Originally Posted by Pantherstang84

And has been one good DC away for 5 years now. Kubiak needs more OC time and hopefully he can learn to leave his personal friendships at the door when he comes to work. His inability to hold his staff accountable is a major flaw. Really wanted him to work out here. Really did. He just isn't the right coach for this team. It's not personal with me. I don't hate the guy or wish him ill. It's just not working out and it is time to move on.

Yep. I really wish he was the guy because he seems like a decent person and the type that you want to have success, as opposed to an asshat like the fatass on the other sideline today.

However, being a nice guy isn't enough, and it's time to move on.

[MojoX]

Originally Posted by Dishman

As Head Coach Gary Kubiak had the opportunity of fixing this defense several years ago. His solution was to promote Frank Bush. He also has allowed Alex Gibbs to remain the DB coach.

Enough is enough. That bone-headed coaching you refer to is a product of Texan's HC Gary Kubiak.

Never said to give Kubiak a pass. He is the Head Coach not the Offensive Coordinator in chief. If he can't or wont't manage a staff, including dealign with hiring/firing decisions, a major part of the job, then he doesn't deserve to continue in the position. Period.

He won't be the first or the last, coach to go down for putting together a poor staff.

[gary]

They were very lucky against the Redskins and Raiders they should be 2-8 right now. Say what you will but the record is what it is which all I care about.

[utahmark]

Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

I'm not going to argue with those that want Kubiak fired (reality would be that the entire top coaching staff would be canned once a new HC comes in). There are plenty of reasons for us to be feeling like we need a widespread change, and many of them completely valid.

I just don't see Kubiak as being at fault during this game. The two biggest things that frustrated me today were (1) Schaub's poor time management at the end of the first half and (2) our terrible secondary; particularly extremely poor safety play... yet again.

Many will blame Kubiak for his time management/play calling, but I think a lot of what happens in the final 2 minutes... and final 30 seconds is all on Schaub. We continually waste way too much time.

The biggest thing is our Secondary. The Loss today is FULLY on them. Not Kubiak. Our offense engineered a drive to get us into the lead and then another to extend the lead and force the Jets to score a TD instead of a FG. Our offense played a very aggressive, physical, and good Jets defense and won those matchups. Our defense failed this team yet again.

Troy Nolan and Eugene Wilson were both constantly out of position and taking terrible angles on the ball. If we had even remotely better play from them we would have won. This team would easily be 6-4 right now (because of wins the last two weeks) with minutely better secondary play. That would have us in a 1st place tie in our division.

So many want Kubiak canned and that's fine. I don't call you stupid or dumb... I think you have reason to be upset. I think this is definitely a playoff team and can reach the super bowl if only our defense gets better. I'd like a really good proven DC that can teach these guys up and fire them up. We're now giving up 30 ppg and last in the NFL. I want Kubiak to stay in place, call the offense, keep doing what he's doing... but for us to (1) bring in a new DC that calls the defense and is in charge of that on game day too and (2) bring in some playmakers on that side of the ball via free agency and the draft.

That's what I want. take it or leave it. Tell me I'm a damn fool, I don't really care what you think of me. This defense is killing us. All we need to do is fix the back end of it and we're a really really good team.

exactly! you say it better than I do. with even an ave defense we are a playoff team this year. I think it would be safer to just get someone in to fix the defense then get rid of the whole staff. I don't think Kubiak should have a say in who that is because he has already missed twice.

[hradhak]

Here's my take on it. Kubiak has made mistakes in the past by hiring friends over the best available person. If he's willing to admit that it's a mistake and stop hiring his friends and instead get a solid DC pick, I would agree give Kubiak another shot.

[kiwitexansfan]

Originally Posted by hradhak

Here's my take on it. Kubiak has made mistakes in the past by hiring friends over the best available person. If he's willing to admit that it's a mistake and stop hiring his friends and instead get a solid DC pick, I would agree give Kubiak another shot.

This.

Hence my thread on who is out there for the DC spot.

[Texas T]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

Fair, balanced & cohesive post OMT. I don't think you're a fool.


For what its worth, Harrison & Dungy just talked about our latest follie & harrison & Dungy said that the cb's should've been playing inside technique on the braylon edwards catch & of course wilson wasn't in position. i think its pretty clear Bush is in over his head & needs to go.

They also said that someone from the Texans defensive coaching staff needed to be fired...I guess we'll see if that happens.

[HTown2ATX]

is this a serious thread?

i'm missing the sarcasm somewhere I know it!

[3rd and Inches]

Originally Posted by HTown2ATX

is this a serious thread?

i'm missing the sarcasm somewhere I know it!

I honestly think it was started to raise my blood pressure and decide that the universe is coming to an end.. I could be overly paranoid though.

[utahmark]

Originally Posted by 3rd and Inches

I honestly think it was started to raise my blood pressure and decide that the universe is coming to an end.. I could be overly paranoid though.

I probably should of worded it different. Just to help with your blood pressure. How about "I would'nt be opposed to keeping Kubiak if we get a new dc". that would probably raise most of your blood pressure's as well. Maybe not as much. I think it's at least worth an argument.

[TexansSeminole]

Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

Many will blame Kubiak for his time management/play calling, but I think a lot of what happens in the final 2 minutes... and final 30 seconds is all on Schaub. We continually waste way too much time.

While I agree with you about it being on Schaub, it's also on Kubiak. He is the QB coach. He tutors Schaub on how to act in these situations. He has watched Schaub manage the clock poorly in these situations time and time again. Why can't he teach the guy to get better at it? Seems to me that Schaub is doing what Kubiak is teaching him or Schaub is uncoachable. Which do you believe it is?

[3rd and Inches]

Originally Posted by utahmark

I probably should of worded it different. Just to help with your blood pressure. How about "I would'nt be opposed to keeping Kubiak if we get a new dc". that would probably raise most of your blood pressure's as well. Maybe not as much. I think it's at least worth an argument.

Well.. to be honest.. after the Rick Smith fiasco.. and now Frank Bush.. my faith in Kubiak has diminished to a negative balance.

[Norg]

WTF happend

Wasent our D last year like top 10 in D

and now we are the worst in History !!!!!!!!!!!!!

what happend ??????????? Did losing DUnta and Reeves really effect us this much

Maybe Richard Smith wasent tha Problem

[Norg]

Originally Posted by 3rd and Inches

Well.. to be honest.. after the Rick Smith fiasco.. and now Frank Bush.. my faith in Kubiak has diminished to a negative balance.

Kubes hires his buddies has his coaches

Bob needs to FIre Kubes buddies and Get a Proven DC

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by Norg

WTF happend

Wasent our D last year like top 10 in D

and now we are the worst in History !!!!!!!!!!!!!

what happend ??????????? Did losing DUnta and Reeves really effect us this much

Maybe Richard Smith wasent tha Problem

coaches coach & players play....

[utahmark]

Originally Posted by Norg

WTF happend

Wasent our D last year like top 10 in D

and now we are the worst in History !!!!!!!!!!!!!

what happend ??????????? Did losing DUnta and Reeves really effect us this much

Maybe Richard Smith wasent tha Problem

I think not keeping reeves was the biggest mistake. he was our best corner last year. he might have been hurt, i heard something about that?

whoever is f'ing with our corner backs might be the biggest problem. but like a lot of you are saying if kubes want's to be more than oc he should of figured that out and fixed it. Still think it would be easier to fix it for him and let him stay though.

[3rd and Inches]

Originally Posted by Norg

Kubes hires his buddies has his coaches

Bob needs to FIre Kubes buddies and Get a Proven DC

Amen to that Norg.

[overtrained]

Sorry if already stated but....since Kubiak was hired EVERY other team in the NFL has made the playoffs or fired their coach. Proof is in the pudding and Kubiak has failed.