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Old 11-21-2010   #21
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Sorry, the OP made me think I stumbled in the Drunk Thread.

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I think he is maturing as a coach. I like the fact he ran the ball 3 times with foster and did'nt try some bs play to let the clock stop. Make the other team go 80 yards in 50 sec with no time outs. I can't see how any person with any real football knowledge disagrees with that. I think his team was prepared to play even after the horrible loss last week. The team does'nt quit. I think he is turning into a good head coach that did'nt know much about the defensive side of the ball and he listened to the wrong people. With any type of defense we are 8 and 2 this year.

there are two conditions. first the team must keep playing at a high level for the rest of this year. Next we have to replace Bus. Kubiak should hand the defense over to the new guy and stay out of the way, draft picks included and he also should not have a vote in who the new guy is. That should be left to Mcnair and Smith.

I can't argue if he is fired, i'm just saying what I would do.
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I think he is maturing as a coach. I like the fact he ran the ball 3 times with foster and did'nt try some bs play to let the clock stop. Make the other team go 80 yards in 50 sec with no time outs. I can't see how any person with any real football knowledge disagrees with that. I think his team was prepared to play even after the horrible loss last week. The team does'nt quit. I think he is turning into a good head coach that did'nt know much about the defensive side of the ball and he listened to the wrong people. With any type of defense we are 8 and 2 this year.

there are two conditions. first the team must keep playing at a high level for the rest of this year. Next we have to replace Bus. Kubiak should hand the defense over to the new guy and stay out of the way, draft picks included and he also should not have a vote in who the new guy is. That should be left to Mcnair and Smith.

I can't argue if he is fired, i'm just saying what I would do.
L.O.L. 5 years is more than enough time for him to have gotten it right & unfortunately, he hasn't. I won't flip out & boycott the team either way..but i will if someone doesn't get better defensive personnel in here...
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Kubiak is the head coach. The Texans are losers.

That's it. That's all I need to know. Kubiak must go.
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If a head coach can't be trusted to hire a DC, he can't be trusted as a HC.
lol!!! you guys crack me up!!! that was actually the best post against what i said. I do believe if he is let go we just groomed him for some other team and we will watch him become a really good head coach for someone else. Every problem I've had with him he seems to be correcting except of course the dc. He seems to learn from his mistakes.

He is'nt of course the greatest coach in the world and we do have about a 50/50 chance of getting someone better. So we could roll the dice to make everyone happy. some of these names I keep hearing might not be as good as you guys think or as good as they once were. but Kubiak has done enough to get fired and I cant argue if he is.
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I don't have a problem keeping Kubiak depending on how the team plays out the rest of the season.

The D-coordinator has to go though.
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Can we just fire whomever drafted Amobi Okoye over Revis?
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Again, I don't think you can fault McNair for firing Kubiak. It's probably the right move. I would start looking now to see who is available and who you can get. I would think that hiring anyone who doesn't have head coaching experience would mean we're going to have growing pains all over again.

If there's a lockout what happens to the draft ? Can we still draft players and just not sign them, or is it postponed till next season?
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This team is 6th in PPG scored. Dead last in PPG against.

Half of this team is a quality football team, I think the haterade is clouding some people vision.

We need to fix the defence. If that means HC, DC, new players or all of the above get that done, then we can talk about being a contender in our division.
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Again, I don't think you can fault McNair for firing Kubiak. It's probably the right move. I would start looking now to see who is available and who you can get. I would think that hiring anyone who doesn't have head coaching experience would mean we're going to have growing pains all over again.

If there's a lockout what happens to the draft ? Can we still draft players and just not sign them, or is it postponed till next season?
Even with a proven HC, you are still starting from scratch because of new systems, new terminology, bringing players that 'fit' the system etc.

Hello rebuilding for the 3rd time.
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Even with a proven HC, you are still starting from scratch because of new systems, new terminology, bringing players that 'fit' the system etc.

Hello rebuilding for the 3rd time.
I mispoke. I meant to say that you're going to have the head coach making mistakes with a rookie head coach that an experienced coach wouldn't make. There's definitely going to be some growing pains with a new coach for the players.

I would much rather see us bring in an experienced head coach with some wins under his belt. I just don't see any of the former coaches who are in the booth now coming back to coaching.
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He neg you? If so let me know, I'll replace it.

Some folks watch football but don't actually see the game.
Dude, I don't care about rep. Don't worry about it.

People being as blind as they are piss me off almost as much as the actual game. Almost.
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at the end of the season Mcnair will go over his company from top to bottom and see what needs to be done

Nothing has changed Kubes better start winning like next week if he want to keep his job
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we do have about a 50/50 chance of getting someone better. So we could roll the dice to make everyone happy.
Maybe, but we'd also have a 100% chance of not getting someone who has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he cannot win in this city.
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Even with a proven HC, you are still starting from scratch because of new systems, new terminology, bringing players that 'fit' the system etc.

Hello rebuilding for the 3rd time.

Do we have to go thru this again???

Look at the recent history and educate yourself as to the numerous crappy teams who have made HUGE steps forward in the NEXT year with a new head coach.
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This team is 6th in PPG scored. Dead last in PPG against.

Half of this team is a quality football team, I think the haterade is clouding some people vision.
Quality offenses don't have to play catchup every single week, after scoring minimal points in the first half.

Quality offenses control the ball for the WHOLE game. This is one of those cases where lofty stats are misleading and provide no insight as to the true effectiveness of this offense.
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I think he is maturing as a coach. I like the fact he ran the ball 3 times with foster and did'nt try some bs play to let the clock stop. Make the other team go 80 yards in 50 sec with no time outs. I can't see how any person with any real football knowledge disagrees with that. I think his team was prepared to play even after the horrible loss last week. The team does'nt quit. I think he is turning into a good head coach that did'nt know much about the defensive side of the ball and he listened to the wrong people. With any type of defense we are 8 and 2 this year.

there are two conditions. first the team must keep playing at a high level for the rest of this year. Next we have to replace Bus. Kubiak should hand the defense over to the new guy and stay out of the way, draft picks included and he also should not have a vote in who the new guy is. That should be left to Mcnair and Smith.

I can't argue if he is fired, i'm just saying what I would do.
Your J/K right

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Quality offenses don't have to play catchup every single week, after scoring minimal points in the first half.

Quality offenses control the ball for the WHOLE game. This is one of those cases where lofty stats are misleading and provide no insight as to the true effectiveness of this offense.
wow, pretty much sums up the whole season
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Quality offenses don't have to play catchup every single week, after scoring minimal points in the first half.

Quality offenses control the ball for the WHOLE game. This is one of those cases where lofty stats are misleading and provide no insight as to the true effectiveness of this offense.
Stats are misleading, just imagine if we had even a high school quality defense to get the ball back for the offense some other way than letting the other team score.
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