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Old 11-17-2010   #1
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This thread is in no way to diss AJ and his accomplishments. However, I was curious about an impression that I have borne over the years and wanted to look into. Outside of some scattered "highlight reel" moments of AJ dragging several tacklers with him after a catch, it seemed to me that over the years, AJ not uncommonly has gone down quickly after the catch.

I found this interesting set of NFL stats published by STATS LLC which left me asking myself more questions.


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AJ is 3rd in the AFC for receiving yards.

AJ is 4th in the NFL for receiving yards.


AJ is tied for 4th (3 way) in the AFC for big catches (>25 yards).

AJ is tied for 5th (6 way) in the NFL for big catches (>25 yards).


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AJ is tied (2 way) for only 16th in the AFC for receiver yards after the catch. (BTW, Arian Foster is #1)

AJ is not even ranked within the top 20 in the NFL for receiver yards after the catch (Arian Foster is #4)


AJ is only 13th in the AFC for receiver yards per catch.

AJ is not even ranked within the top 20 in the NFL for receiver yards per catch.


AJ is tied for 2nd (5 way) in the AFC for receiver dropped catches.

AJ is tied for 3rd (9 way) in the NFL for receiver dropped catches.


AJ is tied for 15th (6 way) in the AFC for touchdown receptions.

AJ is not even ranked within the top 20 in the NFL for touchdown receptions.


AJ is not even ranked with the top 20 in the AFC for % passes caught/target.

AJ is not even ranked with the top 20 in the NFL for % passes caught/target.


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*There are other receiving stats that you can pull up on the above linked site if you wish.
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This thread is in no way to diss AJ and his accomplishments. However, I was curious about an impression that I have borne over the years and wanted to look into. Outside of some scattered "highlight reel" moments of AJ dragging several tacklers with him after a catch, it seemed to me that over the years, AJ not uncommonly has gone down quickly after the catch.

I found this interesting set of NFL stats published by STATS LLC which left me asking myself more questions.


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AJ is 3rd in the AFC for receiving yards.

AJ is 4th in the NFL for receiving yards.


AJ is tied for 4th (3 way) in the AFC for big catches (>25 yards).

AJ is tied for 5th (6 way) in the NFL for big catches (>25 yards).


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AJ is tied (2 way) for only 16th in the AFC for receiver yards after the catch. (BTW, Arian Foster is #1)

AJ is not even ranked within the top 20 in the NFL for receiver yards after the catch (Arian Foster is #4)

Now how many of those with higher yards after catch are RB? They are always getting the ball on screens etc where they have running room ahead of them. How many WRs are ahead of him?

AJ is only 13th in the AFC for receiver yards per catch.

AJ is not even ranked within the top 20 in the NFL for receiver yards per catch.

I expect many of those above him are stretch the field guys, AJ is our workhouse reciever.

AJ is tied for 2nd (5 way) in the AFC for receiver dropped catches.

AJ is tied for 3rd (9 way) in the NFL for receiver dropped catches.

Not surprising given all the times Schaub forces bad passes into coverage to him.

AJ is tied for 15th (6 way) in the AFC for touchdown receptions.

AJ is not even ranked within the top 20 in the NFL for touchdown receptions.


AJ is not even ranked with the top 20 in the AFC for % passes caught/target.

AJ is not even ranked with the top 20 in the NFL for % passes caught/target.

Again this is on Schaub forcing balls at AJ.
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*There are other receiving stats that you can pull up on the above linked site if you wish.
All easily accounted for I feel. Responses above in Red.
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Between AJ's bum ankle and unwise use of the offensive talent on this team, I'm not suprised.
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Between AJ's bum ankle and unwise use of the offensive talent on this team, I'm not suprised.
And the fact that Matt can't hit a receiver in stride on a long throw consistently..
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If you notice when AJ is thrown the ball, there is a guy on him or right next to him just about every time. I would consider this more or less a result of double-teaming in terms of YACs.

On top of that, guys that tend to have high YACs like Kenny Britt or DeSean Jackson have QBs who can throw a bomb 60 yards down the field in stride, leaving the DBs unable to catch up. AJ, on the other hand, consistently has to turn and wait for the ball.

I would be willing to bet that a guy like Peyton/Vick/Rivers/Brady would be unbelievably scary with AJ. Unfortunately, our QB is above average, but is a typical WCO QB in that he is very good at the short-medium throws, but suffers on the long ball.
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The only thing that has ever bothered me about AJ, besides the occasional drop, is his yardage to TD ratio. IMO, he isn't targeted enough in the redzone. We hardly ever throw fade routes to him when he obviously has every advantage over CBs.

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Yeah, Matt can't throw the deep ball. It's very sad to see sure TD's lost due to under throws.
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AJ has never been a YAC or TD machine. And the QB argument doesn't hold up, because the greatest YAC WR in the history of the NFL had a QB that wouldn't be described as strong-armed by anyone. In fact, "typical WCO QB" was invented by the man, pretty much.

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The only thing that has ever bothered me about AJ, besides the occasional drop, is his yardage to TD ratio. IMO, he isn't targeted enough in the redzone. We hardly ever throw fade routes to him when he obviously has every advantage over CBs.

You have to feed the beast for the beast to beast.
This is the part that bothers me. Perhaps they know something we don't. Maybe AJ sucks at running the fade route. I don't know. I just know that if I were an OC, AJ would be a prime weapon in the EZ.
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Bad ankle and Schaub underthrowing! Does Schaub think AJ is slow or something? AJ is freaking 4.3 speed!!! The Jags game, AJ burned Mathis on the post corner route and had him beat at least 10 yards.
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Bad ankle and Schaub underthrowing! Does Schaub think AJ is slow or something? AJ is freaking 4.3 speed!!! The Jags game, AJ burned Mathis on the post corner route and had him beat at least 10 yards.
The problem is that by the time Matt gets back and set to throw, AJ has already out run his arm.
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The problem is that by the time Matt gets back and set to throw, AJ has already out run his arm.
That might be true, but AJ usually gets that wide open due to play-action. IMO, Schaub is very good with his play-action fakes and he might take a bit more time than normal.

I's just piggy-backin on your post cuz we pretty much agree
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That might be true, but AJ usually gets that wide open due to play-action. IMO, Schaub is very good with his play-action fakes and he might take a bit more time than normal.

I's just piggy-backin on your post cuz we pretty much agree
I think you said it better than I did.
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"Stats are for losers" ~ Bill Belichick

No seriously, I'll take AJ 7 times a week and twice on Sundays.
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No seriously, I'll take AJ 7 times a week and twice on Sundays.
I think we all would, stump-humper. We're just looking at faults in his game, which are likely not really his fault.
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I think we all would, stump-humper. We're just looking at faults in his game, which are likely not really his fault.
Stump-humper?? Okay Mr. Solidity!
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Between AJ's bum ankle and unwise use of the offensive talent on this team, I'm not suprised.
Me either

The ankle is the big problem. IMHO
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And the fact that Matt can't hit a receiver in stride on a long throw consistently..
I'm a fan of Schaub, but this is one of his glaring weaknessess. Drives me crazy, because you can see open field just waiting to be taken if he'd just hit his WR in stride.

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If you notice when AJ is thrown the ball, there is a guy on him or right next to him just about every time. I would consider this more or less a result of double-teaming in terms of YACs.

On top of that, guys that tend to have high YACs like Kenny Britt or DeSean Jackson have QBs who can throw a bomb 60 yards down the field in stride, leaving the DBs unable to catch up. AJ, on the other hand, consistently has to turn and wait for the ball.

I would be willing to bet that a guy like Peyton/Vick/Rivers/Brady would be unbelievably scary with AJ. Unfortunately, our QB is above average, but is a typical WCO QB in that he is very good at the short-medium throws, but suffers on the long ball.
I have absolutely no doubt that if AJ were matched up with a Brady or Manning he would get multiple rings. And he'd probably get at least one with the other QBs you mentioned, especially when you consider that they have coaches that know how to game plan and work within the ebb and flow during games.
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I think we all would, stump-humper. We're just looking at faults in his game, which are likely not really his fault.
His biggest fault?

He hasn't managed to mentor another receiver to be exactally like him in every way.

Other than that, the guy is a stud receiver.
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AJ was actually high on YAC his first couple seasons. Scheme has a lot to do with it. All the HWWNBN really short fast passes he would run out for additional yardage. Now he is generally targeted much further down the field and closer to the safety coverage.

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That might be true, but AJ usually gets that wide open due to play-action. IMO, Schaub is very good with his play-action fakes and he might take a bit more time than normal.
Schaub has one of the best play actions in the league but as an example of this AJ was wide open against the Hags when Rashean Mathis bit hook, line and sinker on play action. Two steps toward the LOS and AJ was gone.

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I'm a fan of Schaub, but this is one of his glaring weaknessess. Drives me crazy, because you can see open field just waiting to be taken if he'd just hit his WR in stride.
The phenomenon is definitely there but the cause is uncertain to me. Schaub has indicated on several occasions that what people have thought were poorly thrown balls were intentional placement by him. He has talked about throwing it if anything short rather than long to make sure the WR has a play on the ball. He has talked about throwing low (lots of TE passes over the middle) or high (AJ on the sidelines) even though it makes the catch more difficult in order to minimize the chance of an INT. Not sure if it is his idea or his coaching. The arm seems least likely to me as it happens on 30 yard in the air passes and then he'll chuck one 50 yards. He clearly does not have the zip of Vick or McNabb, etc. though.
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