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Old 04-11-2005   #201
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-- Sharper Mulling Options --
Mon Apr 11, 2005 --from FFMastermind.com

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports the Seahawks could know as early as today whether veteran LB Jamie Sharper will be joining them for the 2005 season. Tony Agnone, Sharper's agent, said over the weekend he would like to have a deal done by today. Of course, that could change if none of the offers he has received are to his liking. Sharper visited the Seahawks last week after first meeting with the Cincinnati Bengals. The Jacksonville Jaguars and Cleveland Browns also have expressed interest in Sharper, who was released April 1 by the Houston Texans. If Sharper's choice is not the Seahawks, it's not for a lack of trying. The club didn't miss a recruiting trick during his visit. After being taken to dinner in a limousine Thursday night, Sharper toured Qwest Field on Friday morning. As he entered the stadium, his image was projected on the scoreboard screen, and he was greeted with piped-in crowd noise -- including chants of "Ja-mie, Ja-mie, Ja-mie." Agnone has not ruled out any of the teams that have shown interest. But the Bengals' initial contract offer was said to be less than Sharper was anticipating, and the word out of Cleveland is that the Browns no longer consider themselves in the picture.
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Based on the Bengals and Browns comments, looks like Ja-mie may be pricing himself out of the market. Sounds like Seattle is making a strong run though. I hope he finds a good home, other than the Jags.
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I can't see why he would go to the Seahawks since they are only about 1M under the cap according to one of their fans, not sure how accurate that is...If it were all about money, though, he'd be an Jacksonville by now...
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They may have to release another Vet to sign him.
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Who would they release to free up space, Chad Brown?
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As he entered the stadium, his image was projected on the scoreboard screen, and he was greeted with piped-in crowd noise -- including chants of "Ja-mie, Ja-mie, Ja-mie." ..
.. something taken from a Texans game??
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-- Sharper Still Mulling Options --
Tue Apr 12, 2005 --from FFMastermind.com

The Cincinnati Bengals official website reports after soaking in last week’s trips to Cincinnati and Seattle, free-agent LB Jamie Sharper was expected to meet with agent Tony Agnone Monday night to see what the next step is in his quest to find a team after his April 1 release from Houston. That could mean Cincinnati and it could mean soon, but the story looks to still be developing. “We’d like to make some sort of decision as soon as possible,” Agnone said from Maryland, “be it tonight, tomorrow, after whenever Jamie and I talk, and we’ll see where it goes.” Agnone had hoped to make a decision by Monday, but the longer it goes, it would appear, the greater the chance the Bengals have at landing the eight-year linebacker. It’s believed Seattle has offered more money than the Bengals, but Sharper is also drawn to Cincinnati because of HC Marvin Lewis and, some media sources suggest, the proximity of the city to his Florida home. Agnone wouldn’t talk specifics, but said Sharper is trying to make a decision after his visits and talking to his family. “I don’t think this has ever been about money,” Agnone said.
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Sharper signed with the Seahawks

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The Seahawks beat out the Bengals and Jaguars to reach a five-year, $17.5 million agreement to sign former Texans linebacker Jamie Sharper, considered one of the best players still available.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2035781
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Five years???
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Good signing for them...Maybe he'll be more of a difference maker there than he was here...
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Thanks for the info Wags.

A lot of happy Seattle fans: http://mb25.scout.com/fseahawksinsid...ID=11429.topic
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JMO, but I would bet Sharper thought his market value was much closer to Hartwell/Bell. Notice, while the deal is four 5 years, the signing bonus is only $1.5 mil which means he can be cut at any time without much dead space. Supposedly Cincy offered even less money than Seatle. Love to know if the Texans offered more (hard to imagine they didn't offer at least a Coleman type deal) but Sharper's pride wouldn't let him come back.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing. 17 mil 5 years. that is right around 3.3 million. Half of the 6 million we would have had to pay him. I bet the Texans were definitely in the ballpark. Too bad it went down like this.
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Assuming the $1.5 is part of the $17 that's being reported (that's how it's often reported, i.e., "including" vs, "in addition to"), he is scheduled to receive $15.5 base salary over 5 years. His bases aren't posted yet on NFLPA but with the usual backloading, he won't see half of that. As far as the $1.5 signing bonus, all I can say is Jamie found out what the rest of the league really thought of him - and what he was really worth. I wouldn't be surprised if the Texans offered more up-front on a re-do - maybe something in the $3 range on a three year which I'm sure he would have taken as an insult

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Texans offered more up-front on a re-do - maybe something in the $3 range on a three year which I'm sure he would have taken as an insult
Very likely true and he may have climbed out on a limb that he didn't feel he could come back off of after he felt he was insulted. The term "Shooting yourself in the foot" may come into play here.
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I hope he has a better year than Eddie George whose ego landed him in a world of painful reality-the Dallas bench.
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I am just glad he didn't sign with the Jags.
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JMO, but I would bet Sharper thought his market value was much closer to Hartwell/Bell. Notice, while the deal is four 5 years, the signing bonus is only $1.5 mil which means he can be cut at any time without much dead space. Supposedly Cincy offered even less money than Seatle. Love to know if the Texans offered more (hard to imagine they didn't offer at least a Coleman type deal) but Sharper's pride wouldn't let him come back.
I doubt Sharper was actually thinking his market value was significantly higher than Hartwell or Bell. And I doubt even more that the Texans offered him more money than he got. That is rediculous, the only logical reason he left was because he was not welcomed back, either for being in the doghouse with Capers or the Texans have a card in the whole that they are not displaying. The was let go and signed within 2 weeks, that shows me there was some considerable interest. Other bigger named players are still mulling around looking for a deal. Pride really has nothing to do with it, emotions were.
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I doubt Sharper was actually thinking his market value was significantly higher than Hartwell or Bell. And I doubt even more that the Texans offered him more money than he got. That is rediculous, the only logical reason he left was because he was not welcomed back, either for being in the doghouse with Capers or the Texans have a card in the whole that they are not displaying. The was let go and signed within 2 weeks, that shows me there was some considerable interest. Other bigger named players are still mulling around looking for a deal. Pride really has nothing to do with it, emotions were.
Pretty much my philosophy too.
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I doubt Sharper was actually thinking his market value was significantly higher than Hartwell or Bell. And I doubt even more that the Texans offered him more money than he got. That is rediculous, the only logical reason he left was because he was not welcomed back, either for being in the doghouse with Capers or the Texans have a card in the whole that they are not displaying. The was let go and signed within 2 weeks, that shows me there was some considerable interest. Other bigger named players are still mulling around looking for a deal. Pride really has nothing to do with it, emotions were.
Ses, normally I like your takes, especially on LB's, but look at your 1st sentence above and my statement. Mine, "closer to", yours "significantly higher"--not even close. We will never know about the offers but whether it is "rediculous" or not, I would bet money far quicker on this than in the stock market that (a) the Texans offered a signing bonus in excess of what Seattle did (come on that was a ridiculously low signing bonus "within 2 weeks" and was the higher offer he got by reports compared to Cincy) and (b) the term was shorter. Seriously, you think the Texans offered less than $1.5 mil to Sharper after giving Coleman $5 mil?

PS--(a) who are the bigger name FA players available? and (b) what is pride if not an emotion, or sin?
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