Cam Newton Controversy - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Yankee_In_TX · 11-05-2010

here's some random link

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010...-go-from-here/

Sorry if dupe thread, didn't see another one.

Here's my question:

Does the colleges and NCAA (and NFL, but what do they care?) truly have their heads so far up their butts that a company exists that matches high school and college kids with colleges?

HTF is that not an agent?!?!

The1ApplePie · 11-05-2010

High school coaches get paid-off to steer big recruits to colleges as well. Its a dirty system all around.

**badboy** · 11-05-2010

Until agents and alumni and the player get severely punished nothing will be done. I compare it to the illegal immigration problem.

**Showtime100** · 11-13-2010

I had to bump this thread.

As I understood it, Auburn, by playing Newton today have open themselves up to major problems if Cam is found to have violated the rules.

I don't follow this side of the college game very closely but it seems to me Auburn's action today will potentially cost countless Auburn players their right to play in a future bowl game.

It seems the NCAA AND many universities simply don't give a damn about recruited meat. Nothing really new there but this seems a little more blatant than normal. How far am I off here?

**silvrhand** · 11-13-2010

LOL FBI is involved now too, ugh that's gonna get ugly.. Where there is smoke there is fire..

JB · 11-13-2010

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Originally Posted by silvrhand

LOL FBI is involved now too, ugh that's gonna get ugly.. Where there is smoke there is fire..

Burning down the house...

Kulluminatii · 11-13-2010

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Originally Posted by silvrhand

LOL FBI is involved now too, ugh that's gonna get ugly.. Where there is smoke there is fire..

Of course, no one would have said a word if Newton wasn't playing as great as he has been this year. Jealousy at its finest? Who knows, will be interesting to see what happens.

hot pickle · 11-13-2010

what about nick fairley though!!! wow what a player!

**Showtime100** · 11-13-2010

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Originally Posted by Kulluminatii

Of course, no one would have said a word if Newton wasn't playing as great as he has been this year. Jealousy at its finest? Who knows, will be interesting to see what happens.

Could be true. But I wonder if the loose lips would sink the biggest ships in this case. It just seems way too.....open a story to think otherwise at this point.

**Dutchrudder** · 11-15-2010

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Originally Posted by JB

Burning down the house...

**badboy** · 11-15-2010

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Originally Posted by hot pickle

what about nick fairley though!!! wow what a player!

Yes he is and he looked very good against LSU. I have him on my mock draft which is looking even more reasonable as Texans moved up the board from #25 my predicted spot as 12-4. Fairly was a good DT option but this season he has really cranked it up.

On Newton, the university would lose their opportunity to be national champions if he did not play the rest of season. If he is found guilty of violating NCAA policies, Auburn and the players still lose. So I guess it is better to keep mouth shut and see what happens. Maybe they are hoping all that happens is Newton gives back the Heisman trophy and scholl is not disciplined.

Ole Miss Texan · 11-15-2010

It's going to be pretty crazy when he wins the Heisman this season and then the case settles in the near future and he has to forfeit it up like Reggie did.

Blake · 11-17-2010

If I am Auburn I am riding Cam all the way to a Heisman and NC. There is no reason to sit him unless they are 100% sure they will get caught.

What is the alternative? Bench Cam and possibly lose a game, forfeit the Heisman before he wins it, forfeit a NC before they get there? No thanks. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

The1ApplePie · 11-17-2010

Nothing is gained by sitting him.

If he is not eligible, then all the wins this season will not count anyways

**Showtime100** · 11-17-2010

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Originally Posted by Super Mario

If I am Auburn I am riding Cam all the way to a Heisman and NC. There is no reason to sit him unless they are 100% sure they will get caught.

What is the alternative? Bench Cam and possibly lose a game, forfeit the Heisman before he wins it, forfeit a NC before they get there? No thanks. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

As you've said I don't know they have a choice. It's a tough situation. They play him and the stuff hits the fan at a later date, or don't play him and then what happens? Who knows?

One thing is for sure, if they don't play him and lose a game (or even not lose), then Cam is exonerated there isn't a fan big enough to handle the shtload coming.

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Ole Miss Texan · 11-17-2010

The only thing I can think of is if Cam is guilty of something and Auburn is turning their heads at it then the University will receive more disciplinary action. If Auburn has seen sufficient evidence that Cam should be ineligible, the have a duty to sit him, suspend him, etc. In that sense, even IF they ever have to forfeit wins or anything, they likely will receive a much lesser punishment: fines, loss of scholarships, etc.

From where I sit though, keep playing Cam. Let him win that Heisman, go when that National Championship, and keep getting stud recruits. Sitting him "to be safe" would definitely be the wrong move, imo.

Yankee_In_TX · 11-17-2010

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Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

It's going to be pretty crazy when he wins the Heisman this season and then the case settles in the near future and he has to forfeit it up like Reggie did.

I think that possibility - even if remote, will keep voters away from him.

pbat488 · 11-18-2010

If anyone is really bored and wants a pretty damn thorough recap/suppostion of events, check this thread out on tigerdroppings..

It is very long but very informative on the whole situation...

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/m...asp?p=22778676

BullsOnParade · 11-18-2010

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Originally Posted by pbat488

If anyone is really bored and wants a pretty damn thorough recap/suppostion of events, check this thread out on tigerdroppings..

It is very long but very informative on the whole situation...

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/m...asp?p=22778676

I read that thread. That is some amazing information right there. Can you imagine if half of that stuff is true?

-an Auburn booster funneled 250k to Cecil Newton via another family member
-Auburn has been paying many players
-Auburn players are given unmarked debit cards to a local bank chain
-Auburn players are given "slot machine cards" that guarantee winning slots machines, Alabama Gaming Commission involved now

Holy crap! WOW, just wow. CAM NEWTON, uh oh. AUBURN, oh no. SEC, so this is how it works... This story still has a long way to go.

Kulluminatii · 11-18-2010

Holy ****, if even one part of that is true Auburn is ****ed! And you know they aren't the only team doing that, especially in the SEC.

11-05-2010	#3
badboy Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Clear Lake Posts: 19,269 Rep Power: 31411	Re: Cam Newton Controversy Until agents and alumni and the player get severely punished nothing will be done. I compare it to the illegal immigration problem. __________________ The sound of marine engines and superchargers soon shall fill the air!

11-13-2010	#4
Showtime100 Got AJ? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin,Tx Age: 50 Posts: 18,740 Rep Power: 39298	Re: Cam Newton Controversy I had to bump this thread. As I understood it, Auburn, by playing Newton today have open themselves up to major problems if Cam is found to have violated the rules. I don't follow this side of the college game very closely but it seems to me Auburn's action today will potentially cost countless Auburn players their right to play in a future bowl game. It seems the NCAA AND many universities simply don't give a damn about recruited meat. Nothing really new there but this seems a little more blatant than normal. How far am I off here? __________________ *Awesome sig by False Start*

11-13-2010	#5
silvrhand Site Contributor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: La Porte, TX Section: 135J 5-8 Age: 38 Posts: 1,788 Rep Power: 4493	Re: Cam Newton Controversy LOL FBI is involved now too, ugh that's gonna get ugly.. Where there is smoke there is fire..

11-13-2010	#8
hot pickle السلام عليكم Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Age: 24 Posts: 2,434 Rep Power: 2073	Re: Cam Newton Controversy what about nick fairley though!!! wow what a player!

11-15-2010	#12
Ole Miss Texan Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,635 Rep Power: 11393	Re: Cam Newton Controversy It's going to be pretty crazy when he wins the Heisman this season and then the case settles in the near future and he has to forfeit it up like Reggie did.

11-05-2010	#2
The1ApplePie Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 7,835 Rep Power: 18676	Re: Cam Newton Controversy High school coaches get paid-off to steer big recruits to colleges as well. Its a dirty system all around.

11-17-2010	#13
Blake MMQB Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spring Section: 551/B Posts: 9,608 Rep Power: 15288	Re: Cam Newton Controversy If I am Auburn I am riding Cam all the way to a Heisman and NC. There is no reason to sit him unless they are 100% sure they will get caught. What is the alternative? Bench Cam and possibly lose a game, forfeit the Heisman before he wins it, forfeit a NC before they get there? No thanks. Nothing ventured nothing gained. __________________

11-17-2010	#14
The1ApplePie Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 7,835 Rep Power: 18676	Re: Cam Newton Controversy Nothing is gained by sitting him. If he is not eligible, then all the wins this season will not count anyways

11-17-2010	#16
Ole Miss Texan Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,635 Rep Power: 11393	Re: Cam Newton Controversy The only thing I can think of is if Cam is guilty of something and Auburn is turning their heads at it then the University will receive more disciplinary action. If Auburn has seen sufficient evidence that Cam should be ineligible, the have a duty to sit him, suspend him, etc. In that sense, even IF they ever have to forfeit wins or anything, they likely will receive a much lesser punishment: fines, loss of scholarships, etc. From where I sit though, keep playing Cam. Let him win that Heisman, go when that National Championship, and keep getting stud recruits. Sitting him "to be safe" would definitely be the wrong move, imo.

11-18-2010	#18
pbat488 gig 'em Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: pittsburgh, pa Age: 24 Posts: 1,404 Rep Power: 7379	Re: Cam Newton Controversy If anyone is really bored and wants a pretty damn thorough recap/suppostion of events, check this thread out on tigerdroppings.. It is very long but very informative on the whole situation... http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/m...asp?p=22778676 __________________ "for God and country. geronimo."

11-18-2010	#20
Kulluminatii Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: California Age: 22 Posts: 1,954 Rep Power: 3279	Re: Cam Newton Controversy Holy **, if even one part of that is true Auburn is **ed! And you know they aren't the only team doing that, especially in the SEC.

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