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Old 10-24-2010   #1
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Default Does NFL 'skirts only' rules give the Texans an edge

Does the NFL's new 'safety oriented' rules actually give an edge to the Texans offense oriented team an edge to this season? I think it does. Consider that the Raiders set a new team record with a score of 59 today against the Bronco's. Now I know the Raiders are on everyone's high powered offensive teams list, right. Come on 59 points. And there were other multiple above 30 pts scores today.

So the question I am asking the board is this. With the Texans poor defense and high powered offense, given that the NFL wants to 'outlaw' vicious hits or hits to the helmet, etc. doesn't this give the Texans an edge. Especially given that the 'knock' on the Texans team is that they are not as physical of a team.

The NFL defense's are going to have to 'pull up' on their hits and tackling so doesn't this mean more receptions/ yds/ TD's for high powered offenses such as the Texans? Which should translate into more wins, right?
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That just might be crazy enough to work......
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By that logic, wouldn't it make our own defense even worse?
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By that logic, wouldn't it make our own defense even worse?
How many Texans have been fined by the league recently? Just because the defense is terrible, it doesn't mean they can't also be stupid.
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By that logic, wouldn't it make our own defense even worse?
is it possible for our defense to actually be worse?
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is it possible for our defense to actually be worse?
Yeah, we could be Denver.
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How many Texans have been fined by the league recently? Just because the defense is terrible, it doesn't mean they can't also be stupid.
Three this week.
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The NFL is "soft".............
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Default Re: Does NFL 'skirts only' rules give the Texans an edge

The offense probably is fine under any rules. Allowing more physical play actually would play into the strengths of our corners. Neither of the starters is a quick witch cover type guy
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Default Re: Does NFL 'skirts only' rules give the Texans an edge

I didn't really see a huge difference in how teams played yesterday...I think I saw two players pull back on laying into a guy but in both situations, the guy was already on his way down to the turf and both hits didn't have to be made.

Maybe we'll see people actually wrap up a guy or try to knock the ball off at the last second for a change.
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Default Re: Does NFL 'skirts only' rules give the Texans an edge

I posted this in a different thread (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76877) but what I saw over the weekend was defensive backs playing more aggressively and going for the ball rather than the big hit.

It resulted in a higher than average turnover percentage and a lot more defensive touchdowns.
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I posted this in a different thread (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76877) but what I saw over the weekend was defensive backs playing more aggressively and going for the ball rather than the big hit.

It resulted in a higher than average turnover percentage and a lot more defensive touchdowns.
Yep. Go back and look at the Brandon Merriwether hit in the 1st quarter. When that happened, Phil Simms pointed out how he was still able to make an aggressive hit and that because of the rules it was an even more technically sound hit, stating that Merriweather had to wrap up more because of it.
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Default Re: Does NFL 'skirts only' rules give the Texans an edge

I did not know that the NFL has "new 'safety oriented' rules" in place.

I know that there's a story about stronger enforcement of existing rules, but please elaborate on the new rules.
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Yep. Go back and look at the Brandon Merriwether hit in the 1st quarter. When that happened, Phil Simms pointed out how he was still able to make an aggressive hit and that because of the rules it was an even more technically sound hit, stating that Merriweather had to wrap up more because of it.
merriweather didn't wrap anything up, he hit the player the same as he usually does, he just aimed lower..which is why all this talk about using proper hitting technique to decrease head shots/concussion hits & the like is a bunch of bull.

Guys are still going to launch & the same bad tackling technique will still be rampant, its just no one was physically incapacitated this week...thus the league doesn't care. I wonder if they'll care when guys start going down for acl/mcl tears at an alarming rate.
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I wonder if they'll care when guys start going down for acl/mcl tears at an alarming rate.
I'm sure they'll feel the same as a lot of fans do...it sucks but crazy hits are not part of the NFL. That's why it is called "tackle football" not "crazy hit football". The ligament tears will be unfortunate, but they're a better consequence than concussions.

People act like concussions are no big deal because the healing rate is a lot faster than other injuries, but have you seen what guys like Ali look like later in life after all of those concussions? Do you want to look at Andre like that 30 years from now and say "Yeah, it sucks, but there's nothing that can avoid injuries like that when you play football." The NFL is trying to look out for the players, and right now the players are still in a position where they are young and don't think anything is going to happen to them.
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I guess this would effect us only if we could tackle. Letting a WR run free doesn't really count. Unless our goal is to tire them out. Now that may actually work.
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I guess this would effect us only if we could tackle. Letting a WR run free doesn't really count. Unless our goal is to tire them out. Now that may actually work.
Man...I had Kenny Britt on my fantasy team until this week. I was desparate for receiver help and finally dropped him because I can't stand seeing a Titans player on my team. He then made me look like a fool and dropped 40 fantasy points in that game.


Long story short...after seeing the game I'm scared for when we play the Titans trying to stop CJ.
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Man...I had Kenny Britt on my fantasy team until this week. I was desparate for receiver help and finally dropped him because I can't stand seeing a Titans player on my team. He then made me look like a fool and dropped 40 fantasy points in that game.


Long story short...after seeing the game I'm scared for when we play the Titans trying to stop CJ.
Stuff like that happens to me weekly. In one league I have M.Turner, A.Foster, R.Mendenhall and Forte. The two that I bench ALWAYS put up 30-40 points each.
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I'm sure they'll feel the same as a lot of fans do...it sucks but crazy hits are not part of the NFL. That's why it is called "tackle football" not "crazy hit football". The ligament tears will be unfortunate, but they're a better consequence than concussions.

People act like concussions are no big deal because the healing rate is a lot faster than other injuries, but have you seen what guys like Ali look like later in life after all of those concussions? Do you want to look at Andre like that 30 years from now and say "Yeah, it sucks, but there's nothing that can avoid injuries like that when you play football." The NFL is trying to look out for the players, and right now the players are still in a position where they are young and don't think anything is going to happen to them.

apples and oranges..every boxer repeatedly gets concussions, that is definitely an unavoidable hazard of a job where you punch guys in the face for a living.Not every player in the nfl, before or after the penalty being reinforced, is getting concussion causing hits every time they make a hit/block....

But i doubt they care unless its peyton manning or some other superstar player which again, is why the NFL is being hypocritical. How in the hell can you institute a rule where you can't hit qb's low after pretty boy brady gets his season ended, but then leave every other player on the field open for such hits out in the open field? I know you'll say that they don't have to hit around that area, but if i'm a little 195 lb cb with 260 lb brandon jacobs coming at me, i'm not gonna hit him any higher than his knees b/c it provides the best way for me to get him down with out getting a concussion from him running me over. This scenario (a db's giving up 20+ lbs to a RB/WR) is probably more frequent than what happened 2 weeks ago.
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you might want to watch more sports analysis shows on ESPN, since you seem to be in the dark on this topic. And this is NOT what this thread is about. It is about discussing how the Texans can take advantage of the new 'mantra' on vicious/illegal hits, etc.

on MNF they quoted a stat of the average combined score of all games was 50+ and also was the second highest EVER. That is the part of the new 'safety' mentality of the NFL that I am referring to. The Texans have a high powered offense and a lousy defense. But it is appearing more and more like the NFL is turning into 'who scores last' type games and running up the score beyond previous games/season's. Now, granted, this is based on one entire weekend of scoring but it is quite obvious that the new penalty/fine/suspension threats are seriously detracting from the defensive side of the game, at least for this weekend.

This is the aspect of the 'new and improved player safety' rules that is going to play to the Texans strength, which is obviously the offense.
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