Put'n down the kool-aid

[thunderkyss]

I haven't seen today's games yet. But I've been watching the scores, & all I can say, is that I'm done with the kool-aid.

I'm not worried about the last 6 games. They are what they are, and worrying about them, griping about them, won't change a thing.

Kubiak saw what we saw. Frank Bush saw what we saw. The Texans didn't see it, but they dang sure should have felt it.

I'm not going to be among the naysayers, the pinksoapers, or the skyISfalling crowd. I'm just not going to spray sunshine on anything less than excellent game effort.

What changed my mind? The Buffalo Bills jumped to a 24-7 (?) lead over the Baltimore Ravens. The Oakland Raiders put the smack down on San Diego last week, & they're putting something nasty on Denver this week. Kansas City (who are just learning how to throw the ball) put 42 points on Jacksonville. Cleveland went to the Big Easy and made Greg Williams their "entertainment."

And the thing that burns the most... is that Tennessee's offense looks to be worlds better than ours.

With Tennessee winning, Nov 1 is a must win, just to keep pace. The Colts team has been decimated. They've had a week to prepare, we've had a week to prepare.

Losing is not an option.

[ziggy29]

The problem is that it feels like 10-11 wins are needed in this division, made even tougher by the fact that it's one of the tougher divisions in the NFL (as always) and you have 6 games against that opposition.

[imatexan]

I don't see how you can say a team that coming into this week was 27th in overall offense is better than ours.

I am not questioning that Tenn has a good offense because they do but to say that it they are better is way off IMO.

I will take Schaub/AJ/Foster over VY/CJ/Britt, although a case can be made for both sides.

Also after this week our wins are looking better on paper(yes I know that "on paper" does not count for anything but people still look a it)

Colts 4-2
Redskins 4-3
Raiders 3-4
Chiefs 4-2

[Norg]

THe afc south is like a even race Who is going to blink next .....

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by imatexan

I don't see how you can say a team that coming into this week was 27th in overall offense is better than ours.

I am not questioning that Tenn has a good offense because they do but to say that it they are better is way off IMO.

I will take Schaub/AJ/Foster over VY/CJ/Britt, although a case can be made for both sides.

Also after this week our wins are looking better on paper(yes I know that "on paper" does not count for anything but people still look a it)

Colts 4-2
Redskins 4-3
Raiders 3-4
Chiefs 4-2

Cowboys..... Giants. We couldn't moved the ball. We went three & out, if we weren't turning it over.

Titans didn't have that issue.

[awtysst]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Cowboys..... Giants. We couldn't moved the ball. We went three & out, if we weren't turning it over.

Titans didn't have that issue.

Doesn't matter. All that matters is we go out there and win games. The games of the past are in the past. We still have a shot to win the division. Going forward all we can do is control our play. If we go out and play hard we can pick up 10 wins. If we don't we wont.

[Dutchrudder]

I know this is heresy around here, but I think the Titans look like the best team in the division right now. The offense is a little above average, but their defense is doing very well at creating turnovers. I think we will be fighting them for the division title all the way till the end of the season. Nice thing is that we play the Jags in the last game, and they play the Colts

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by awtysst

Doesn't matter. All that matters is we go out there and win games. The games of the past are in the past. We still have a shot to win the division. Going forward all we can do is control our play. If we go out and play hard we can pick up 10 wins. If we don't we wont.

I agree. I didn't mean to go there. It is what it is, the only thing that matters is the next game.


(But I was asked a question, so I responded).

But my point, my main point is that there is no reason this team can't move the ball on any body. If it's unrealistic to score 70 points, then call me unrealistic. But if our offense has the ball 14 times in a game, I expect to score on 9 of them.

That is how you beat the Colts. Forget this ball control "theory." You need to be effecient on offense, touchdowns, not field goals, score on every possession.

[GuerillaBlack]

Maybe with the Titans winning, the team plays a little better knowing what's at stake on Monday Night. They really need to keep pace.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

Maybe with the Titans winning, the team plays a little better knowing what's at stake on Monday Night. They really need to keep pace.

Here's hoping.

Fingers crossed.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I haven't seen today's games yet.

OK. Then you say...

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Tennessee's offense looks to be worlds better than ours.

But, you haven't actually watched the game. So, how can you possibly make this statement?

Maybe the koolaid's not all that should be put down?

[stingray]

It's all about the defense. If the defense can turn it around and just be respectable. They don't have to be dominant just respectable.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Lucky

But, you haven't actually watched the game. So, how can you possibly make this statement?

Maybe the koolaid's not all that should be put down?

I have no idea how many points the Titans offense put up today. I do know Kenny Brit (who?) just put up 220 on Philly. Judging by the way we played against Dallas & NYGiants, & how they played against the Giants & the Cowboys...... we'll get stymied again.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by stingray

It's all about the defense. If the defense can turn it around and just be respectable. They don't have to be dominant just respectable.

No.

The best offense in the world needs to stay on the field. The worst defense in the world needs to stay on the bench.

[Hervoyel]

Tennessee is seeing people sell the farm to stop Chris Johnson and it's creating opportunities for their passing game ....BUT keep this in mind. Kerry Collins does this every year or two. He comes out, replaces Vince, looks great, and carves up somebody. It can be somebody really good or somebody lousy but he puts it all together like he's going to finally be "The Answer" at QB and gets everybody excited and then he starts flinging interceptions and fumbling the ball and generally reverts back to the talented journeyman with major flaws that he's always been. You can put him on a team that helps cover those flaws up but he's still Kerry Collins and he still needs a bottle of Jim Beam. We've been feeding on this guy for years. We beat him as a Giant, we beat him as a Raider, and we've beat him as a Titan. Let him do his Brett Favre impersonation for now. He'll come back down to earth soon enough.

We'll be fine. It won't be pretty but we'll be fine.

[Texan_Bill]

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[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

Tennessee is seeing people sell the farm to stop Chris Johnson and it's creating opportunities for their passing game ....BUT keep this in mind. Kerry Collins does this every year or two. He comes out, replaces Vince, looks great, and carves up somebody.

I've been trying not to go here. But...

The Giants stack the box to stop CJ2k...... they score 29.

The Giants stack the box to stop AFoster..... we go 3 & out.


The Cowboys stack the box to stop CJ2k.... they score 34.

The Cowboys allow Foster to get 100.... we score 6 points.

[stingray]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

No.

The best offense in the world needs to stay on the field. The worst defense in the world needs to stay on the bench.

So.... The Texans are gonna onside kick and recover after every score?

[fiasco west]

Originally Posted by Lucky

OK. Then you say...

But, you haven't actually watched the game. So, how can you possibly make this statement?

Maybe the koolaid's not all that should be put down?

Right.

Anyone watching that Philly game doesn't come out thinking "Oh boy, Tennessee has a serious air attack!" because Collins made bad throws all game and Britt pretty much ran uncovered all during the second half.

One of those big plays Britt literally runs right past 3 Eagle defenders...just runs right past them without anyone responding. I can't imagine what the Texans would have done to Philly if we were playing that game. That's how I honestly feel.

Also CJ hasn't been great this year. I'm worried about the Titans, more than the Colts. I'll say that much. It's more because of whats on defense though than offense. I feel like the Titans have yet to face a elite offense yet and the best offense they've played thus far (Denver) beat them.

They have a good defense, but the Texans when on present a lot of problems for any defense.

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I've been trying not to go here. But...

The Giants stack the box to stop CJ2k...... they score 29.

The Giants stack the box to stop AFoster..... we go 3 & out.


The Cowboys stack the box to stop CJ2k.... they score 34.

The Cowboys allow Foster to get 100.... we score 6 points.

In both cases our passing game failed us as well as our defense (arguably if our passing game had been able to get on track our defense wouldn't have been in nearly as bad a position). Still, the thing is more often than not our passing game experiences success. More often than not Kerry Collins reverts to the player we all know he really is. I'm just saying that I'm not worried about the Titans as much as you seem to be. They're riding high, they'll eventually deal with some lows. We've had a few lows and we're due to ride high again. Seasons are long, it'll be alright.