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Old 10-19-2010   #1
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This is just my opinion. But if I were Kubiak, the thing I would do to fix this thing, would be to fix the offense.

Kubiak is an offensive genius, we've got talent all over the offense: Slaton, Ward, Dressen, JJ, Walter, Owen, Andre & Vontae (that's a football playa right there!), let's keep our defense off the field.

If it works against the Colts, why won't it work against the other 9 teams on our schedule?

I doubt we had as many 3 & outs (on offense) all of last year, as we've already seen this year.
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This is just my opinion. But if I were Kubiak, the thing I would do to fix this thing, would be to fix the offense.

Kubiak is an offensive genius, we've got talent all over the offense: Slaton, Ward, Dressen, JJ, Walter, Owen, Andre & Vontae (that's a football playa right there!), let's keep our defense off the field.

If it works against the Colts, why won't it work against the other 9 teams on our schedule?

I doubt we had as many 3 & outs (on offense) all of last year, as we've already seen this year.
Why do you think this is happening? We finally have a running game yet we go 3 and out quite a bit. Especially early in games.
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Why do you think this is happening? We finally have a running game yet we go 3 and out quite a bit. Especially early in games.
Because we don't pass the ball all 3 times, duh.
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This is just my opinion. But if I were Kubiak, the thing I would do to fix this thing, would be to fix the offense.

Kubiak is an offensive genius, we've got talent all over the offense: Slaton, Ward, Dressen, JJ, Walter, Owen, Andre & Vontae (that's a football playa right there!), let's keep our defense off the field.

If it works against the Colts, why won't it work against the other 9 teams on our schedule?

I doubt we had as many 3 & outs (on offense) all of last year, as we've already seen this year.
So far this year weve converted 29 of 68 3rd down conversions for a 42.6% rate. This is good for 8th in the NFL

We've converted 3 of 5 4th downs for a 60% rate. This is good for 8th in the NFL.

We have 131 first downs, good for 4th in the NFL



Last year we converted 82 of 204 3rd down conversions, for a rate of 40.2%. Good for 15th in the NFL.

Last year we converted 8 of 12 4th down conversions, good for 66% and 5th in the NFL.

We had 340 total first downs. Good for 4th in the NFL.




This "downfall" of our offense is greatly exaggerated. We are almost exactly the same statistically as we were last year. Our 3rd down conversion percentage is actually slightly higher
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Default Re: The path of least resistance....

Because Schaub is a rhythm quarterback and finally with the emergence of a solid running attack in addition, the one throw he might have to make if they are running the ball might be out of sync. When Schaub gets hot, he is one of the toughest to stop, but he can sure be ice cold at times.

HJam was right, if Schaub threw the ball all 3 times, the likelihood of a 3 and out is probably much slimmer, but the turnover ratio climbs up a bit, and you might not kill any time off the clock in the process. Sort of a double edge sword.
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This "downfall" of our offense is greatly exaggerated. We are almost exactly the same statistically as we were last year. Our 3rd down conversion percentage is actually slightly higher
I love stats, but they don't tell the whole story, like the real joker said, we don't convert in the first half, and we convert a lot in the second. If you were to track the defenses three & outs, I bet they would align perfectly to when the offense is converting them.

Our problem is that we aren't converting in the first half, our defense is staying on the field & giving up big points. We shut the Redskins down in the second half, slowed the Giants down in the second half, and got two big stops against the Chiefs late in the 4th Qtr. Had it not been for the injury to Demeco, I'm sure we would have stopped the bleeding earlier.


The only game the second half got worse than the first, was when the offense never got started in Dallas.
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TK, this is where I have to disagree with you. Our offense is pretty close to where it was last year, but it seems to work harder to get there.

Our defense has been just horrible on 3rd downs, especially early. Now maybe if the offense did better early, it would help the defense. But the defense put the offense in a hole early last Sunday, and that has to put the pressure on, don't ya think?
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TK, this is where I have to disagree with you. Our offense is pretty close to where it was last year, but it seems to work harder to get there.

Our defense has been just horrible on 3rd downs, especially early. Now maybe if the offense did better early, it would help the defense. But the defense put the offense in a hole early last Sunday, and that has to put the pressure on, don't ya think?
We held the Cowboys to 10 points in the first half. Their first series against us was a turnover on downs, their second a 3 & out.

The first series against the Giants was a three & out. We allowed 0 points to the Giants when our offense held the ball longer than 3:00.

We forced three punts (two three & outs) against the Chiefs in the first half.
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Default Re: The path of least resistance....

We went into halftime down by seven, getting the ball back to start the third Qtr. We went 3 & out.

I don't think we ever trailed by more than 10 in that game really, that's not big hole.
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We went into halftime down by seven, getting the ball back to start the third Qtr. We went 3 & out.

I don't think we ever trailed by more than 10 in that game really, that's not big hole.
I think we were down 14 after the chiefs scored in the 3rd
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I think we were down 14 after the chiefs scored in the 3rd
You're right, I just checked.
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So far this year weve converted 29 of 68 3rd down conversions for a 42.6% rate. This is good for 8th in the NFL

We've converted 3 of 5 4th downs for a 60% rate. This is good for 8th in the NFL.

We have 131 first downs, good for 4th in the NFL



Last year we converted 82 of 204 3rd down conversions, for a rate of 40.2%. Good for 15th in the NFL.

Last year we converted 8 of 12 4th down conversions, good for 66% and 5th in the NFL.

We had 340 total first downs. Good for 4th in the NFL.




This "downfall" of our offense is greatly exaggerated. We are almost exactly the same statistically as we were last year. Our 3rd down conversion percentage is actually slightly higher
I really like our increased red zone efficiency. We are like eighth in the NFl as of Sunday, but 4-4 should have brought us up.
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When teams are constantly smacking us in the mouth by attempting 4th down plays mid-quarter. Midfield even... says a lot.
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When teams are constantly smacking us in the mouth by attempting 4th down plays mid-quarter. Midfield even... says a lot.
I honestly don't know why you would punt against us. Every third and long would be a play to get it closer and 4th I would go for it. Our D can't stop a wounded house cat anyway.
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If I'm Kubiak I think I would throw first and run second against certain teams.

I understand having an identity, but this offense can move the ball through the air, especially when they get in a rythm...

I wouldn't go into any specific game trying to establish anything...I would try to see what a defense was weakest at and exploit it...We have the weapons at every position to do so.

Against the Colts...run it down their throats...

Against the Jags, pass it until they get tired of seeing the ball in the air...

Use your TE's and get mismatches on LB's...Just be more aggressive with the offensive play calling and don't wait until the game starts getting out of hand...

Mix in some hurry up early in the game...catch the defense off guard sometimes...just do some different things...
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If I'm Kubiak I think I would throw first and run second against certain teams.

I understand having an identity, but this offense can move the ball through the air, especially when they get in a rythm...

I wouldn't go into any specific game trying to establish anything...I would try to see what a defense was weakest at and exploit it...We have the weapons at every position to do so.

Against the Colts...run it down their throats...

Against the Jags, pass it until they get tired of seeing the ball in the air...

Use your TE's and get mismatches on LB's...Just be more aggressive with the offensive play calling and don't wait until the game starts getting out of hand...

Mix in some hurry up early in the game...catch the defense off guard sometimes...just do some different things
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I feel this. When they start the game in "script mode," they've rarely
scored on it due to the lethargy. The Texans offense has almost
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I feel this. When they start the game in "script mode," they've rarely
scored on it due to the lethargy. The Texans offense has almost
no energy in the first quarter. We need that urgency on the very
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I'm cool with the script...I've been on a two high school and 1 college team where we used a scripts...

It never hampered our offense...

But that doesn't mean they can't go hurry up with it, or go script some hurry up in...
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I feel this. When they start the game in "script mode," they've rarely
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With OD back.... & if Jacoby keeps working with his hands.. I don't think we'll have to worry about starting slow anymore.


At least I hope they won't.
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With OD back.... & if Jacoby keeps working with his hands.. I don't think we'll have to worry about starting slow anymore.


At least I hope they won't.
I love me some Owen Daniels but I wouldn't bank on him for too long. 3 ACLs is trying to tell us something... I guess I see it as... anything Owen gives us is just gravy but the Texans gotta remember to keep Dressen warm in the meantime.
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