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Old 10-19-2010   #1
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OK. I have a question.

We won the toss. And we deferred? I don't get it. With an offense like Houston has, why would you defer? Especially with our defense out there, why wouldn't you go down, try to get points and force the other team to answer? I know we've been inconsisent on offense as well, but it seems to be our best defense. For example, if you score a TD on your first drive this week... does KC go for it on 4th and 3 on the first drive? Do they risk you going down and getting up 14-0?

Maybe you want the ball after the half to answer, I'm fine with that but how do you defer?

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OK. I have a question.

We won the toss. And we deferred? I don't get it. With an offense like Houston has, why would you defer? Especially with our defense out there, why wouldn't you go down, try to get points and force the other team to answer? I know we've been inconsisent on offense as well, but it seems to be our best defense. For example, if you score a TD on your first drive this week... does KC go for it on 4th and 3 on the first drive? Do they risk you going down and getting up 14-0?

Maybe you want the ball after the half to answer, I'm fine with that but how do you defer?

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Only thing I can think of is that Kubes was trying to show the defense that he still has faith in them to go out there and set the tempo from the start of the game. It failed miserably.
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I like knowing that we will receive the ball to open the 2nd half.
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Listening to the Coaches show last night on the way home, Apparently Demeco took it upon himself to defer.. Let's just say Kubiak was not very happy about it..
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I like knowing that we will receive the ball to open the 2nd half.
I'm good with that too. I just don't know why, if we win the toss, we sould defer the option. Seems like we would have a preference. Does Kubes not say to his captains "If we get the toss this is what we want to do"?

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Listening to the Coaches show last night on the way home, Apparently Demeco took it upon himself to defer.. Let's just say Kubiak was not very happy about it..
Messes with the script
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Does deferring mean that you are electing to get the ball in the second half or does it mean you are allowing the other team to choose? And if you defer do you get to pick your side?
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I like knowing that we will receive the ball to open the 2nd half.
YUP!! I think that's one of the most important possessions of the game!
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Does deferring mean that you are electing to get the ball in the second half or does it mean you are allowing the other team to choose? And if you defer do you get to pick your side?
Well the call in the stadium was "houston has deferred, KC elects to receive".

I might have misunderstood that but both me and the person I was at the game with thought the same thing.

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Does deferring mean that you are electing to get the ball in the second half or does it mean you are allowing the other team to choose? And if you defer do you get to pick your side?
deferring means you are opting to choose the second half. So the other then can choose to defend or recieve for the first half.
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YUP!! I think that's one of the most important possessions of the game!
The best part about deferring is when you come out after the half and go 3 and out, like they did against KC. Yeah, awesome plan.
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The best part about deferring is when you come out after the half and go 3 and out, like they did against KC. Yeah, awesome plan.
As opposed to going 3 and out to start the game??
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As opposed to going 3 and out to start the game??
LOL, point.
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deferring means you are opting to choose the second half. So the other then can choose to defend or recieve for the first half.
Huh?

Maybe I'm reading what you posted wrong but it seems like you're taking the right to choose in the second half.

Are you saying that we elected to let them choose to defend or receive the first half so that we could elect to defend or receive the second half? Would that mean we might let them pick receive in the first half and then we would elect to kick to them again in the second half?

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Huh?

Maybe I'm reading what you posted wrong but it seems like you're taking the right to choose in the second half.

Are you saying that we elected to let them choose to defend or receive the first half so that we could elect to defend or receive the second half? Would that mean we might let them pick receive in the first half and then we would elect to kick to them again in the second half?

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No, it means we could, not would.
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No, it means we could, not would.
right. I'm asking if that is really an option.

I thought defer meant "we'll pretend they won the toss and let them choose "receive, defend or which end to defend" and then we will pick from whatever is left over.

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Huh?

Maybe I'm reading what you posted wrong but it seems like you're taking the right to choose in the second half.

Are you saying that we elected to let them choose to defend or receive the first half so that we could elect to defend or receive the second half? Would that mean we might let them pick receive in the first half and then we would elect to kick to them again in the second half?

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Yup... In theory, when we deferred to the second half, they technically could have chosen an endzone to defend and kicked off to us rather than recieve the opening kick. Of course no one ever does that, but that is the option.

Likewise, in the second half we could've chosen which endzone to defend and would've had to kick off to them.
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Did we defer, or did we opt to kick off? If we deferred, then we gave the other team the option to receive, kick, or chose the side they wish to defend(typically due to wind direction).

If we opted to kick off, then other team decides which side to defend, 1st/4th or 2nd/3rd iirc on which sides are defended each quarter.

I like the idea of receiving to start the 2nd half, but that's just me. If the opposing team scores quickly to start the game it may be somewhat demoralizing to the team or put unwanted pressure on the offense early on to match.
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