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Old 10-11-2010   #1
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Default Are Kubes supporters already bailing off the wagon?

I'm starting to notice a lot of his supporters jumping off? We're not playing well in the last 3 games, but we're still 3-2 right now with one easy game that we've played. This shouldn't be some big surprise really. It's not like we're 1-4 right now.

I've never liked Kubes personally, but I hate to see the guy lose so much support so easily from his flip floppers every year that change their minds about whether or not he should coach this team 4 or 5 different times throughout a season. Either get behind the guy at this point or get behind the idea of getting a new HC and STICK TO IT. Stop changing opinions about our HC every two games or so depending whether or not if we win or lose close games.

This is year 5 of this guy in his tenure. You guys knew what we were getting coming into this season after watching this guy coach for the last 4 years. He is what he is and he is not changing as a HC. He has his scheme and he does things the way that he's going to do them. You either like this guy's philosophy or you don't, but baling on the guy just after two losses is weak if you were highly confident in this guy going into his 5th season. You knew who this guy was and how this team played for him in the past.

This season isn't over by a long shot. At least wait 3 more weeks before trying to call for this head if you wanted this guy back this year. I sure as hell didn't, but he's here for the remainder of the season and most likely next season as well. Enjoy this team and either get on or off this guy's bandwagon, because he's not about to change who he is now in his 5th season as HC.
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Default Re: Are Kubes supporters already bailing off the wagon?

who said I was even on board *GRIN*

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I've always though Kubes sucks crap through a crazy straw...
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who said I was even on board *GRIN*

This is mainly aimed at the folks that flip flop on this guy every two or three games every year. Either get behind who this guy is as a HC or don't. He's not going to change how he coaches at this point. You either like this guy and want him around for a very long time, or you should be in the camp that wants him out of here like myself. This isn't aimed to create a divide, but it's pretty ridiculous when you see people calling this guy the man one week or right before the season and then calling this guy an incapable HC by week 4 and then turning right around and acting like he's a great HC again because the Texans go on a 3 game winning streak again at some point in the season. We're to late into his tenure for people to be confused as to what this guy brings. You either are support how this regime operates or you don't. We know what we've got either way though. He's been here 4 going on 5 years now.
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Default Re: Are Kubes supporters already bailing off the wagon?

I jumped off the Kubiak bandwagon after the Chris Brown halfback pass game. His contract extension to me is meaningless, if we don't make the playoffs he should be gone.

That said I respect the job Kubes as done and the progress made from 2005. That also said, this team is beyond giving itself pats on the back for baby steps forward. Get it done Gary or get the hell out.
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Default Re: Are Kubes supporters already bailing off the wagon?

I am surprised you are surprised. The tone is a reflection of the result and Kubiaks record IMO. There will be plenty of more buying and equal selling given this roller coaster ride of a team.
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Default Re: Are Kubes supporters already bailing off the wagon?

The Texans were clearly out-coached, out-schemed, out-classed, out played - out everthinged. That said, I'm not a fickle person that changes his mind back and forthl.
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Default Re: Are Kubes supporters already bailing off the wagon?

I have always supported kubes, and if you look at the big picture things have only gotten better since he has been here, but for the first time I'm really starting to wonder about him. I guess the inconsistancy over the years with him is starting to get to me.
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Havent been a Kubes fan for a couple years now. Lets hear from these John Kerry flip flopin sunumabitches. :P
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Default Re: Are Kubes supporters already bailing off the wagon?

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I have always supported kubes, and if you look at the big picture things have only gotten better since he has been here, but for the first time I'm really starting to wonder about him.
That's how I feel.

For once I would like to see him just pull Kareem to the side and give Kareem a chance to get a feel for the game. As a rookie, he deserves that when he's getting beat that bad week in and week out. Just make a small adjustment. That's all.
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I am surprised you are surprised. The tone is a reflection of the result and Kubiaks record IMO. There will be plenty of more buying and equal selling given this roller coaster ride of a team.
But that's who we've been since he's been here. Why is it still a surprise to many at this point? Many have obviously been okay with this for the last two years, so I just don't get the outrage from some that love the hell out of this guy and then totally bail on him two games later. This isn't the first few games in his 2nd year as our HC where we were still trying to figure out what kind of coach he was going to be. We know exactly what we have here. I've never liked it personally and I don't his style of coaching persay, but that's just me. There are others in here who adore the guy and always have and that's just fine as well. THey like his style. They like him, and how he operates. But with the folks who want him fired one week and three weeks later love the guy, and then want him fired again man come on give it a rest already. What kind of support is that?
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Default Re: Are Kubes supporters already bailing off the wagon?

I've always been of the opinion that he is a mediocre coach. Not horrible, but not great.

He's basically Wade Phillips or Jack Del Rio.

Thankfuly, he is not Josh McDaniels or Mike Singeltary
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Default Re: Are Kubes supporters already bailing off the wagon?

To be honest, this is the first time I've second guessed the guy. I've always been pro Kubiak, but I'm starting to wonder if he's the right guy. I don't go around bashing him, this is the first post that I've ever openly wondered if he's the right guy for us. I kept on thinking that if we gave him more time, he would be more successful. He inherited a sorry ass team and pretty much overhauled the entire roster. We seem to have a taken a step back this year in the passing game and our defense didn't take that next step that people have been anticipating. I think that those two things fall on his shoulders and he should have to answer for our problems. Am I screaming for us to fire the guy? No, but I am starting to wonder if he can take us to the promised land. We may need a new navigator.
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[quote=Texecutioner;1547982]But that's who we've been since he's been here. Why is it still a surprise to many at this point? Many have obviously been okay with this for the last two years, so I just don't get the outrage from some that love the hell out of this guy and then totally bail on him two games later. This isn't the first few games in his 2nd year as our HC where we were still trying to figure out what kind of coach he was going to be. We know exactly what we have here. I've never liked it personally and I don't his style of coaching persay, but that's just me. There are others in here who adore the guy and always have and that's just fine as well. THey like his style. They like him, and how he operates. But with the folks who want him fired one week and three weeks later love the guy, and then want him fired again man come on give it a rest already. What kind of support is that?[/QUOTE]

and with that he goes yard...repping that
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I've always been of the opinion that he is a mediocre coach. Not horrible, but not great.

He's basically Wade Phillips or Jack Del Rio.

Thankfuly, he is not Josh McDaniels or Mike Singeltary
Really? I like Singeltary. That guy is going to be a GREAT coach one day, IMHO.
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The Texans were clearly out-coached, out-schemed, out-classed, out played - out everthinged. That said, I'm not a fickle person that changes his mind back and forthl.
I'll give you that Bill. You and I have had some strong disagreements regarding this regime in the past, but at least you've stayed consistent with what you believe in and what you support as far as how this team should be ran.

We still have plenty of football to play and can still have a very good season. If people thought that before this season started they shouldn't be bailing just after two losses if they had that much confidence in Gary's leadership before the season started.
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Default Re: Are Kubes supporters already bailing off the wagon?

I've been a big supporter of Kubiak, not because I think he is a genius coach or talent evaluator, but because I believe that stability is a an important part of a franchise achieving greatness.

This is his first year with his hand picked staff and I must say I am starting to doubt that he has the ability to pull a team together as the head man.
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I've been a big supporter of Kubiak, not because I think he is a genius coach or talent evaluator, but because I believe that stability is a an important part of a franchise achieving greatness.

This is his first year with his hand picked staff and I must say I am starting to doubt that he has the ability to pull a team together as the head man.
You didn't doubt any of this after seeing the debacles of last season? I just don't see why people are so hard on the mistakes from this year when many of them were here last year and these holes weren't filled in the off season in the secondary especially. If people stayed confident last season and in this off season then I don't understand why people are questioning him now when the Texans are 3-2?
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I've been a big supporter of Kubiak, not because I think he is a genius coach or talent evaluator, but because I believe that stability is a an important part of a franchise achieving greatness.

This is his first year with his hand picked staff and I must say I am starting to doubt that he has the ability to pull a team together as the head man.
I have some concerns too. But, remember that the season is a process. The fact that we have lots to improve upon yet we are in 1st in the division should be of some comfort. I believe in the ability of this staff to coach players up and make adjustments over the course of a season....... I think.
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I have always been a Kubiak supporter and I don't wanna judge him until at least mid November. The season is long and can go up and down. Just look at the team we faced yesterday, the Giants. They were totally outclassed and outplayed by the Colts just a couple weeks ago. And they look they are turning their season around.
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