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Old 10-10-2010   #1
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Default From the looks of things 3-1 was an illusion

I genuinely thought that we couldn't look much worse than we did against the Cowboys but here we are playing the Giants and we're bad. At home. Again.

I feel like I know this feeling. Watching the Giants completely eliminate any hope of running the football I feel like I did when the Oilers used to run into that defense that was totally prepared for the R&S offense. You know how the opponents defense would come out and have every single aspect of our game plan covered? Every time Ernest Givins or Haywood Jeffires would make a cut and stop there would be a DB right there?

That's what the Giants D looks like today against our zone blocking.

Not only are they stopping the run but they look like they understand what we're going to do so well that they could probably line up and execute it themselves.

I don't need to mention that our defense never, ever looks like this do I?

Indianapolis was a great win against a team we are built to compete against and know inside out.

Washington was a good comeback against a team whose coaching staff we know well.

Oakland was a win against a team that still just isn't as a good as we are.

Those circumstances contribute to if not explain our three wins. Our loss (soon to be "losses" from the look of things) are a different matter. We were beaten badly by the Cowboys in our own stadium when our team was supposedly ready to make a statement. Today we get Brian Cushing back and again we are being embarrassed by another team we should be able to compete with if we are in fact the good team we all want to believe we are.

Trends appear. The defense is not good. It isn't playing the way it did at the end of last season (again) just like Richard Smith's defenses didn't play the same way after their late surge the previous year. It's starting to look like the Frank Bush experiment didn't change nearly as much as we thought it did. His defensive line can't get pressure just like Richard Smith's. His secondary can't cover just like Richard Smith's. His linebackers are doing fine just like Richard Smith's which is nice but Cushing looks nothing like himself today. For all the talk of going ape shit on the Eli it appears that four weeks off does create a little rust after all. He looks out of sync. I'm comfortable believing that he'll get his mojo back before too long but today he's awkward and unsure and it shows. Bernard Pollard is doing the same second-year fade that Will Demps did before him. We've seen that before too.

We need to pick up a real defensive coordinator the way the Saints did when the brought in Gregg Williams, Green Bay did when they brought in Dom Capers, or the way Miami did when they brought in Mike Nolan.

Frank isn't getting it done guys. I'm going to go back and watch the second half. We can pull out games now and this wasn't meant to be a huge rant thread. Just a "Wow, we can't go on like this one defense" post. I see pieces but we aren't a competent defensive team. We're playing one of those right now and the comparison is not in our favor.
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"Illusion becomes reality, reality becomes illusion."
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See Doug Henning gets it, why can't Frank Bush?
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Default Re: From the looks of things 3-1 was an illusion

Defensive coordinator has changed, DL coach has changed, and DB coach has changed. Maybe our talented players just aren't getting ti done.

Like I said after the Cowboys game, we have exactly what we've all known we have. Our secondary sucks. We have corners that are not starters, for the most part, and Pollard, as good as he is in one dimension, is one-dimensional. Our LBs are good at run defense, but they do nothing to take away the underneath routes. Our DL is Mario, Antonio Smith, and a bunch of scrubs who cannot collapse the interior of the pocket.

Offense is where I'm most disappointed. Matt Schaub looks like he's completely reliant upon the OL protecting him. In today's NFL, you need a QB that can overcome a poor OL from time to time.
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The Cowboys game was when the curtain came down off the wizard.
Teams are now showing the rest of the NFL how to scheme for the Texans.
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Default Re: From the looks of things 3-1 was an illusion

Our secondary will remain last in the NFL after this week. Hakeem Nicks ripped them a new one. Frank isn't getting it done this year. And Cushing didn't make any kind of impact whatsoever like most on here were saying he would when he came back. He is really rusty. Schaub has had 1 good game all season and that was the lucky Washington game. Other than that Foster has bailed him out. Schaub looks really slow and inaccurate this season. Please don't make excuses this year if the Texans go 8-8.
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The Cowboys game was when the curtain came down off the wizard.
Teams are now showing the rest of the NFL how to scheme for the Texans.
Yes. Oakland is just so "Oakland" that they didn't have enough ability or time to incorporate the Dallas lesson into what they do and even then we only barely beat them.

KC is going to get beat by Indy today and then come in here next Sunday and take that beating out on us. We enter the bye 3-3 and come out of it as sacrificial lambs to Peyton's angry vengeance on Monday Night Football where the whole world gets to see us go back to being sub .500
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Default Re: From the looks of things 3-1 was an illusion

Same old shit, different day. So much for being more physical this year.

I've seen enough.
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Please don't make excuses this year if the Texans go 8-8.
Excuses were laid to rest at the end of 2009. Time to cash in or go home.
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If you're a Texans fan, do NOT watch the magazine shows this week.
It's gonna be UGLY.
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Default Re: From the looks of things 3-1 was an illusion

I wouldn't say cushing didn't make an impact on our pass D. Both INTs came off of pressure from cushing
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Default Re: From the looks of things 3-1 was an illusion

We look like an expansion team not a 3 and 1 team, well 3 and 2 team.

We'll be lucky to get seven wins playing like we have in every game except Indy.
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We are two more games like this away from having nothing to talk about but the next draft.
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Same old shit, different day. So much for being more physical this year.

I've seen enough.
If ya can't beat 'em? Cripple the other muff-hugga and his back up and shake hands with the 3rd stringer who finishes the game for him. If you're gonna lose AT LEAST inflict some devastating pain.
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