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Old 03-24-2005   #1
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Default Steroids in the NFL--Jim Haslett

Haslett evidently felt the urge to nuke all the lineman in the late 70's early 80's time period, particularly the Steelers:

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Haslett estimated that half the NFL players, including all the linemen, used steroids in the 1980s when they were not banned by the league and legal if prescribed medically. He claimed steroids began in the NFL with the Steelers' players in the 1970s and mentioned Barry Bonds as having tell-tale signs of use.

Haslett said he believes the league long ago gained control of the steroids problem that was rampant when he played.

"If you didn't [take steroids], you weren't as strong as everybody else, you weren't as fast as everybody else," Haslett said. "That's the only reason to do it. Everybody's looking for a competitive edge."

Haslett said the Steelers of the 1970s were big steroids users.

"It started, really, in Pittsburgh. They got an advantage on a lot of football teams. They were so much stronger [in the] '70s, late '70s, early '80s ... Steve [Courson], Jon [Kolb] and all those guys. They're the ones who kind of started it."
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Old 03-24-2005   #2
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Jim "well, duh" Haslett is trying to ride the $ coattails of Canseco.
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Well say goodbye to Jim "I just lost my job" Hasslet. He will be gone at the end of the year now. You can't bring that kind of controversy to yourself, especialy when you continue to under achieve. Anything less than a superbowl this year and he's gone, same thing goes for Tice.
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On cold pizza this morning they were talking to Merril Hoge and he really gave it to Haslett.
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So should the Steelers have an asterisks next to their 4 Super Bowls? If we are going to do it to Bonds and McGuire shouldn't we do it to them too?
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..guys like Lyle Alzado and Mark Gastineau ..
Funny, those are the first two names that pop into my head at the mention of steroids.
I may have selective memory on this one, but Alzado only left me with the impression of a broken man. Not that he didn't play like a gorilla in his day, but he seemed to go down quietly. Maybe it was the brain cancer.
But Mark Gastineau, who was the unchained animal.. was someone you would never want to look at cross-eyed for fear of being handed your head..
Unbelieveable to watch in a game! But totally out of control in every aspect of his life.
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On cold pizza this morning they were talking to Merril Hoge and he really gave it to Haslett.
What was some of the stuff he said. I didn't get to watch this morning.
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So should the Steelers have an asterisks next to their 4 Super Bowls? If we are going to do it to Bonds and McGuire shouldn't we do it to them too?
No, cause as of right now it's hear say and there's no proof. Bonds testified that he used steroids, unknowing or not and with Mac's non answer we pretty much can say he used steroids as well. Also unlike the unbelievable individual stats those guys were able to put up in baseball. Football is a team sport so you can't punish everyone, because of a few bad apples. Second that was before steroids were illegal.
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The guy I first think of when steroids are mentioned is Tony Manderich. Totally dominant LT at Michigan State, #2 pick in the draft for the Pack. Gets to the NFL, goes off steroids to pass the NFL drug tests, and becomes a fringe player. Maybe Canseco has a point about owing his career to steroids.
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Hodge basically said that all the stats that Haslett showed were bull**** and that Haslett is just trying to get his name in the media and tarnish what the all the players did.
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CHICAGO -- Bo Jackson filed a defamation lawsuit Wednesday against a California newspaper that quoted a dietary expert who said the former two-sport star used steroids.

The lawsuit was filed in Cook County against the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, MediaNews Group Inc., MediaNews Group Interactive, Inc., sports writer Jim Mohr, who is now sports editor, and three other employees of the newspaper.

"I've got nothing to hide," Jackson said at a news conference before the White Sox's game against the Cleveland Indians. "If anyone wants to check into my medical past, go get blood tests, go check up on those blood tests and see if there was any anabolic steroids in it. You're more than welcome."

Jackson is suing for unspecified general and punitive damages. His lawyer, Dan Biederman, also said they want the newspaper to print a retraction.

Steve Lambert, the editor of the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin and The Sun of San Bernardino, said it was too early for the newspaper to comment on the lawsuit.

"We're still investigating the situation," he said.

Mohr did not immediately return a call for comment Wednesday night.

In a story published March 24 under Mohr's byline, dietary expert Ellen Coleman was quoted as saying she knew personally that "Bo Jackson lost his hip because of anabolic abuse."

Jackson, the only player to be named to the NFL's Pro Bowl and appear in baseball's All-Star game, injured his hip playing for the Oakland Raiders in 1991 in a playoff game against the Cincinnati Bengals. He did play baseball that season for the Chicago White Sox and had a hip replacement the next year. He returned to baseball in 1993 and spent one more season in Chicago before signing with the California Angels and then retiring in 1994. He won the Heisman Trophy as a running back for Auburn in 1985.

Jackson said he found the story from the newspaper online, and at least one person called him about it. Biederman said he then contacted Coleman, who denied making any statements about Jackson. She provided the lawyer with a videotape of her speech at a Riverside, Calif., sports forum to back up her claim.

"At no time during my speech or while speaking individually to Jim Mohr did I use or mention the name Bo Jackson," Coleman said in a signed affidavit.

Jackson, now a businessman who lives in suburban Chicago, talks to children about health and nutrition issues. He denied ever using or even seeing steroids in any form.

"I'm not going to sit here and say, 'Maybe I did or maybe I didn't,"' Jackson said. "I didn't. Never did. Never had to do."
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I don't think Haslett's gonna be showing up at any Bills alumni meetings after his coaching career is done now LOL
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