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Old 09-23-2010   #1
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Hello Texas! The first thing I would like to address is the Houston vs Dallas rivalry... I think this is more of a factor for the Texans and their fans, than it is for Dallas... I can see why the Texans and their fans could feel like the step-child... But as for myself, I've always liked the Texans, because I myself am a proud Texan, and I have respect for the name and the unique history it represents... Then there's the supposed rivalry between the two cities, I don't really go for that either... I love visiting Houston... Houston's just like Dallas, except it looks a little different, and it's a lot closer to the coast, which is cool... The Geto Boys, Scarface, SPM, and a ton of great athletes, I'm a big fan of many things Houston... The Texans are by far my favorite AFC team, and this current version of the Texans is quite good, fun to watch, and has a lot of likeable guys on it... I wish more of you would have just a little love for the Cowboys, if only because they're the only other team Texas, and they're not even in the same conference... We play once every four years, I'll hate the Texans for this week, but then I'll go back to rooting for them the rest of the way... Not that I don't acknowledge the rivalry, I do want the Cowboys to have the bragging rights in Texas, but I would never root for a team from New York or Pennsylvania to beat a team from Texas, never... Again, I would feel totally different if we were in the same division, or even the same conference, but it's once every four years...

As for the game... I think it would be hard to find two more evenly matched teams... It's funny that their strengths kinda mirror each other... You could say Johnson>Austin, Schaub>Romo, Daniels>Witten, Williams>Ware, and I could disagree with you, but I think we can all agree that those are all elite level players either way... Dallas might have slightly better RB's, but it won't mean much, because Houston definitely has the better OL... Dallas can't force any turnovers on defense, and they can't stop committing turnovers on offense... Dallas has only 2 sacks in 2 games, that's not gonna cut it against Schaub and Johnson...

Dallas is not looking good, and I know that can change from week to week, but I really don't see them suddenly getting it together and playing the type football it would take to beat a team like the Texans, and on the road no less... The Texans are too hungry... In years past, this would have been the game where the Texans would usually suffer a let down of some sort... But this year's team looks and feels different, they seem to have come of age now... This game will propel the Texans to the playoffs, and propel the Cowboys out of the playoffs... I think Houston will win big, but hopefully Dallas will nut-up and at least make a good game of it...

Good luck on an injury free game... Nice place ya got here btw...
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Welcome to the board Romo_Jedi_9.

I have no idea what to expect from the Texans this Sunday, but I will say this, they are beginning to look like a real football team now. If the Texans cross that mental bridge to playing with fire every game there are few teams in the NFL that can play with them.
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The few times I've watched the Cowboys play lately, there just seems to be a powerful undercurrent of confusion and disorganization, a feeling that everyone is pulling in a different direction. I've got respect for Wade Phillips as a coordinator, and of course we love his dad around here, but I'm not sure he can overcome the king of meddlesome owners. Even Dan Schneider, who was giving Jerrah a run for his money for awhile, seems to have hired someone competent, and then shut up. I guess it all depends on what Jerrah really wants.

I keep thinking this will be a game where the Texans come out overconfident, because there was a time not too long ago when a two game winning streak was an accomplishment. But I'm starting to get the idea that those days are gone, and that the Texans will come out sharp and fired up this Sunday.

The Cowboys could certainly win, they've got the talent and they're desperate, but they're going to have to play a lot better than they've been playing. And they haven't seen a Texans team like this before.
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Welcome aboard, glad to have you visiting. Same here. Lets have a good injury free game......

I for one, dont hate the cowboys. Just not a fan. And nothing would please me better to see an All-Texas Superbowl.
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Hello Texas! The first thing I would like to address is the Houston vs Dallas rivalry... I think this is more of a factor for the Texans and their fans, than it is for Dallas... I can see why the Texans and their fans could feel like the step-child...
You and every other Dallas fan can get over themselves. I mean, I appreciate that you think you're extending an olive branch here, but the undertone reeks of exactly why we don't like Dallas, and it really has very little to do with football. Yes, y'all have rings. Congratulations. I don't care. The Spurs have rings in basketball and I don't dislike them like I dislike Dallasites because they don't act like jackasses (not saying you personally are, just in general).

1.) There is no sustainable rivalry between the teams. They only play once every four years and the game has no more bearing on the standings than a Houston-Detroit game.

2.) Any time the Texans have played a quality team, they've expressed the importance of the game. The Cowboys have been a quality team from time to time in our short history, so there's going to be a little importance placed on the game from that standpoint.

3.) Any time any team plays a self-important pompous bunch of overrated jackasses, that team is going to relish taking said jackasses down a notch. That's just the way it is.

4.) The only reason there's any rivalry-type tensions between the fans is because you get pompous jackass Dallasites pretending that they're better than anyone else. We encounter better manners from 30 other NFL teams' fans than we do from y'all. Try a little grace and humility and maybe you'd find that Houston fans are pretty down home. 30 other NFL teams see that from us - y'all haven't deserved it yet.

5.) This is not the Texans' Super Bowl - it's just one more speed bump on the way to the playoffs. For your team .... well, we'll see, right?
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You and every other Dallas fan can get over themselves. I mean, I appreciate that you think you're extending an olive branch here, but the undertone reeks of exactly why we don't like Dallas, and it really has very little to do with football. Yes, y'all have rings. Congratulations. I don't care. The Spurs have rings in basketball and I don't dislike them like I dislike Dallasites because they don't act like jackasses (not saying you personally are, just in general).

1.) There is no sustainable rivalry between the teams. They only play once every four years and the game has no more bearing on the standings than a Houston-Detroit game.

2.) Any time the Texans have played a quality team, they've expressed the importance of the game. The Cowboys have been a quality team from time to time in our short history, so there's going to be a little importance placed on the game from that standpoint.

3.) Any time any team plays a self-important pompous bunch of overrated jackasses, that team is going to relish taking said jackasses down a notch. That's just the way it is.

4.) The only reason there's any rivalry-type tensions between the fans is because you get pompous jackass Dallasites pretending that they're better than anyone else. We encounter better manners from 30 other NFL teams' fans than we do from y'all. Try a little grace and humility and maybe you'd find that Houston fans are pretty down home. 30 other NFL teams see that from us - y'all haven't deserved it yet.

5.) This is not the Texans' Super Bowl - it's just one more speed bump on the way to the playoffs. For your team .... well, we'll see, right?
YES YES YES! The only thing worse than a cowboy fan from dallas is a cowboy fan from houston!
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You and every other Dallas fan can get over themselves. I mean, I appreciate that you think you're extending an olive branch here, but the undertone reeks of exactly why we don't like Dallas, and it really has very little to do with football. Yes, y'all have rings. Congratulations. I don't care. The Spurs have rings in basketball and I don't dislike them like I dislike Dallasites because they don't act like jackasses (not saying you personally are, just in general).

1.) There is no sustainable rivalry between the teams. They only play once every four years and the game has no more bearing on the standings than a Houston-Detroit game.

2.) Any time the Texans have played a quality team, they've expressed the importance of the game. The Cowboys have been a quality team from time to time in our short history, so there's going to be a little importance placed on the game from that standpoint.

3.) Any time any team plays a self-important pompous bunch of overrated jackasses, that team is going to relish taking said jackasses down a notch. That's just the way it is.

4.) The only reason there's any rivalry-type tensions between the fans is because you get pompous jackass Dallasites pretending that they're better than anyone else. We encounter better manners from 30 other NFL teams' fans than we do from y'all. Try a little grace and humility and maybe you'd find that Houston fans are pretty down home. 30 other NFL teams see that from us - y'all haven't deserved it yet.

5.) This is not the Texans' Super Bowl - it's just one more speed bump on the way to the playoffs. For your team .... well, we'll see, right?


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Step-child? If anything that's a good thing since it would suggest we're not blood relatives of JJ.

....and I don't know where they get that. Like any team other than the Cowboys MUST feel that way if they dare live in the same state. F 'em. You said it better than I would have.
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Hello Texas! The first thing I would like to address is the Houston vs Dallas rivalry... I think this is more of a factor for the Texans and their fans, than it is for Dallas... I can see why the Texans and their fans could feel like the step-child... .
Eridoc kinda nailed how I felt reading your post. I can't rep him again, or I would.

The sad part is, I am sure you came here in good will and are now a bit offended by the reception you are getting. If not a lot offended. We are probably reinforcing your view of Texans fans. Please understand that the bolded part of your post came off to me as patronizing. So everything after was tainted by that.

I call BS on the fact that we feel the rivalry and Dallas doesn't. That is something Dallas fans like to emphasize to make them feel superior to Houston fans. If was was true, they wouldn't feel the need to say it so often. A case of Dallas fans doth protest too much.

Here is to an injury free and well fought game, with a Texans win.
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i wanted to say that but i'm no red name.
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Hello Texas! The first thing I would like to address is the Houston vs Dallas rivalry... I think this is more of a factor for the Texans and their fans, than it is for Dallas... I can see why the Texans and their fans could feel like the step-child...
You've got to be careful when you say things like this here. Whether you mean to or not, you're stirring the pot and this immediately tells everyone here you're a troll.

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You could say Johnson>Austin, Schaub>Romo, Daniels>Witten, Williams>Ware, and I could disagree with you, but I think we can all agree that those are all elite level players either way... Dallas might have slightly better RB's, but it won't mean much, because Houston definitely has the better OL... Dallas can't force any turnovers on defense, and they can't stop committing turnovers on offense... Dallas has only 2 sacks in 2 games, that's not gonna cut it against Schaub and Johnson...
I think it's fairly homer-ish to imply that Austin could be a better receiver than Johnson. Andre has a well-established career in this league and has been dominant for a long time. Austin is just getting started. I think he is and will be a great receiver for a while, but right now I don't think there's even an argument there.

Personally, I feel Schaub is a much better QB than Romo. I've always felt like Romo's trademark is that he's the luckiest QB in the NFL. I swear every time that guy fumbles a football it bounces right back into his hands in stride for him to be able to make a play. Schaub lacks good arm strength, however, and his pocket presence is shakey at best on occassions, I definitely think Romo has him beat in those two categories.

I will not hesitate one bit in saying that Witten is better that Daniels. I have always loved watching Jason Witten play and feel that he is the best TE in the league. Owen's blocking has gotten much better this year, and I feel that if he returns to form in the passing game, he'll be a definite number 2 in the league. I would always pick Owen first, but Witten is definitely better.

I think in comparing Mario and Ware you're almost at a wash. While Ware rushes the passer (and is very good at it), he also plays coverage and is asked to do different things than Mario. Mario is a complete DE, he is definitely one of the best pass rushers in the league, and he is probably the best run-stopping DE there is right now. But he is rarely (if ever) asked to cover, which I think makes it impossible to compare the two. I think it's a toss-up, and being a Texans fan I will take Mario, but I do feel that Mario is a better pass rusher than Ware, although I feel Ware probably has better instincts.
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Nice job of behaving like step-children with an inferiority complex guys.
Don't think like such a Cowboy fan. There is no inferiority complex and if there is I feel sorry for the Texan fans that feel that way. As a Houston sports fan I don't like Dallas sports and their fans just make it worse. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.

As an Astros fan I guess I could see where thay are coming from, though. The Rangers have years to go before they can look the Astros in the eye.
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Hello Texas! The first thing I would like to address is the Houston vs Dallas rivalry... I think this is more of a factor for the Texans and their fans, than it is for Dallas... I can see why the Texans and their fans could feel like the step-child... But as for myself, I've always liked the Texans, because I myself am a proud Texan, and I have respect for the name and the unique history it represents... Then there's the supposed rivalry between the two cities, I don't really go for that either... I love visiting Houston... Houston's just like Dallas, except it looks a little different, and it's a lot closer to the coast, which is cool... The Geto Boys, Scarface, SPM, and a ton of great athletes, I'm a big fan of many things Houston... The Texans are by far my favorite AFC team, and this current version of the Texans is quite good, fun to watch, and has a lot of likeable guys on it... I wish more of you would have just a little love for the Cowboys, if only because they're the only other team Texas, and they're not even in the same conference... We play once every four years, I'll hate the Texans for this week, but then I'll go back to rooting for them the rest of the way... Not that I don't acknowledge the rivalry, I do want the Cowboys to have the bragging rights in Texas, but I would never root for a team from New York or Pennsylvania to beat a team from Texas, never... Again, I would feel totally different if we were in the same division, or even the same conference, but it's once every four years...

As for the game... I think it would be hard to find two more evenly matched teams... It's funny that their strengths kinda mirror each other... You could say Johnson>Austin, Schaub>Romo, Daniels>Witten, Williams>Ware, and I could disagree with you, but I think we can all agree that those are all elite level players either way... Dallas might have slightly better RB's, but it won't mean much, because Houston definitely has the better OL... Dallas can't force any turnovers on defense, and they can't stop committing turnovers on offense... Dallas has only 2 sacks in 2 games, that's not gonna cut it against Schaub and Johnson...

Dallas is not looking good, and I know that can change from week to week, but I really don't see them suddenly getting it together and playing the type football it would take to beat a team like the Texans, and on the road no less... The Texans are too hungry... In years past, this would have been the game where the Texans would usually suffer a let down of some sort... But this year's team looks and feels different, they seem to have come of age now... This game will propel the Texans to the playoffs, and propel the Cowboys out of the playoffs... I think Houston will win big, but hopefully Dallas will nut-up and at least make a good game of it...

Good luck on an injury free game... Nice place ya got here btw...
Nice post (though I agree with what eriadoc said about your post), but the cities of Houston and Dallas have been rivals since both were founded...and rivals on things much more than sports. It'll be that way until the end of times.
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Nice job of behaving like step-children with an inferiority complex guys.
Since he stated that he could see why we feel like step children, I did take offense.

I am a proud Houston Texans fan. In no way whatsoever do I feel like a step child.

That is a slur Dallas fans like to use against us. Michael Irving calling us that on the radio waves in Houston.

If his wording had been, I do not view you as a step child......that would have been different. But telling me that he sees why I feel like a step child, did rub me the wrong way.
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Michael Irvin must be smoking crack again.
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I might be in the minority, but I kinda feel like Demeco on the Cowboys. I don't really care about the rivalry that used to be with them. The titans have easily replaced the girls as my most hated rival. That said, I'd still like to beat the piss out of them because we need to keep building confidence and consistency.
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Oh, and as far as the "rivalry" goes...just listen to Dallas sports talk radio and you will see there is a rivalry (how little or big it may be). Just yesterday on 105.3 The Fan, they did a side by side comparison of many things Houston vs. Dallas. There will always be a rivalry between these two cities, and when their football teams play each other, it's good for the state.
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