Maybe we will get something for Sharper now. - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Grid · 03-21-2005

With the compensatory picks handed out (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1771484) and the Bengals getting a 3rd rounder.. maybe this will highten their interest in sharper and make them more likely to give us that 3rd or 4th rounder for him.

just a thought

Grid · 03-21-2005

bleh.. ok now im confused.. apparently that is an old news post.. but in the other thread on this a recent news post has been posted.. and the bengals dont have a compensatory pick in it.

(but didnt they lose Corey Dillon? is that news post accurate?)

D-ReK · 03-21-2005

Cincy doesn't have a compensatory pick, but Seattle does

...

Weren't they rumored to be interested in Sharper?

Grid · 03-21-2005

ah hah... yes they were rumored to be interested

**Vinny** · 03-22-2005

You cannot trade those picks. You have to use them.

texan_fan · 03-22-2005

Why can't we just KEEP JAMIE?!?!?!?

thetexanator · 03-22-2005

i agree, lets keep jamie, but its likely were not do to the excess at ilb.

ledzeppelin229 · 03-22-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny

You cannot trade those picks. You have to use them.

Yes, but that could make them more likely to trade an original pick if they know they'll still have a 3rd at some point.

Grid · 03-22-2005

yah that

Negative Jesus · 03-22-2005

I just hope that we can work out a way to keep the guy . He has been the most consistent defensive player we have had .

rittenhouserobz · 03-22-2005

I was hoping he would shop around and start to realize the Texans long-term offer was not that far off-base. Sharper has one more year on the contract. Six possible scenarios.

1. He is traded and we get some value
2. He is released and we get nothing.
3. He plays well for us next year (contract year) and gets a big contract from us.
4. He plays well and signs with another team the following year
5. He plays poorly next year and we resign him to a contract that reflects his current play.
6. He plays poorly next year and we don't resign.

The way I see it is we have a 50/50 chance of getting something.

pittbull · 03-22-2005

To me it's better to trade or release a guy after he already knows how much you want, need, or will pay for him. Jamie has never been labeled a locker room disruption by anybody, but when it comes down to $$$, power, & respect, it has a way of ruffling a mans' feathers! UNLESS HIS CHARACTER IS UNREAL!

D-ReK · 03-22-2005

I wouldn't mind keeoing him for another year, but I still think it's likely that he'll be included in a draft day deal (either for a third rounder or packaged with our second rounder to move back up into the first)...

Mr Shush · 03-22-2005

I just hope we don't release him, because I have a horrible fear he might end up at Indy. Freeney+Sharper=a defense of sorts. Not what we want.

D-ReK · 03-22-2005

Your fears won't be realized...Indy doesn't have the money to sign Sharper if we released him (unless Jamie was just Hell-bent on playing for them and took the vet minimum)...

The Preacher · 03-22-2005

If we let Sharper go we would have a bunch of cash under the cap right. I saw how the Vikings found a loophole in the system where they gave a guy an incentive worth millions that he could never reach and since he didn't get it that amount of money went towards this years cap. That's partly how I think they had $31 mil to sign guys with. Pretty slick maybe since we are probably another year away from making a championship run we could do something similar and sign a huge free agent next year that could put us over the top and count a chunk of his signing bonus against next year's cap if we wanted to and avoid cap trouble down the road. Sound like a decent idea or did I read something way wrong?

TexansTrueFan · 03-22-2005

id like to keep sharper, but i find that very unlikly since we have greenwood, and have picked up 2 other ILB ! Jamie is a play maker and i'll miss him if he goes

!!!

TheOgre · 03-22-2005

The Vikings are known for their "bogus" bonuses.

D-ReK · 03-22-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexansTrueFan

id like to keep sharper, but i find that very unlikly since we have greenwood, and have picked up 2 other ILB ! Jamie is a play maker and i'll miss him if he goes

!!!

Just curious, but why does every one of your posts have at least one exclamation point in it?

Oh, and IMO the chance of Jamie Sharper still being a Houston Texan on the night of 4/23/2005 is about 1/100...Anyone care to take bets?

THEFUTURE · 03-22-2005

all i know is that we wont release him, it would be a huge hit against us in the cap, and we would get nothin except losing one of our best defenders. i dont want him to go, but if he does, then get something, anything for him

03-21-2005	#1
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	Maybe we will get something for Sharper now. With the compensatory picks handed out (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1771484) and the Bengals getting a 3rd rounder.. maybe this will highten their interest in sharper and make them more likely to give us that 3rd or 4th rounder for him. just a thought

03-21-2005	#3
D-ReK RAWWWRR! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Avalon Age: 28 Posts: 3,406 Rep Power: 684	Cincy doesn't have a compensatory pick, but Seattle does ... Weren't they rumored to be interested in Sharper? __________________ Smoke 'em if you got 'em...

03-22-2005	#5
Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	You cannot trade those picks. You have to use them. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

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Negative Jesus Rookie Join Date: Feb 2005 Age: 44 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	I just hope that we can work out a way to keep the guy . He has been the most consistent defensive player we have had . __________________ R.I.P. Dimebag 1966-2004 Superjoint Ritual

03-22-2005	#11
rittenhouserobz Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 11	I was hoping he would shop around and start to realize the Texans long-term offer was not that far off-base. Sharper has one more year on the contract. Six possible scenarios. 1. He is traded and we get some value 2. He is released and we get nothing. 3. He plays well for us next year (contract year) and gets a big contract from us. 4. He plays well and signs with another team the following year 5. He plays poorly next year and we resign him to a contract that reflects his current play. 6. He plays poorly next year and we don't resign. The way I see it is we have a 50/50 chance of getting something. __________________ We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. Ben Franklin

03-22-2005	#6
texan_fan Rookie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston Age: 42 Posts: 75 Rep Power: 9	Why can't we just KEEP JAMIE?!?!?!?

03-22-2005	#7
thetexanator All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 544 Rep Power: 293	i agree, lets keep jamie, but its likely were not do to the excess at ilb.

03-22-2005	#12
pittbull All Pro Join Date: May 2004 Location: Houston Age: 39 Posts: 532 Rep Power: 10	sharper trade.... To me it's better to trade or release a guy after he already knows how much you want, need, or will pay for him. Jamie has never been labeled a locker room disruption by anybody, but when it comes down to $$$, power, & respect, it has a way of ruffling a mans' feathers! UNLESS HIS CHARACTER IS UNREAL! __________________ The Original, No Duplicating!!!

03-22-2005	#14
Mr Shush Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oxford, England Age: 30 Posts: 176 Rep Power: 9	I just hope we don't release him, because I have a horrible fear he might end up at Indy. Freeney+Sharper=a defense of sorts. Not what we want.

03-22-2005	#16
The Preacher Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 41 Posts: 429 Rep Power: 9	If we let Sharper go we would have a bunch of cash under the cap right. I saw how the Vikings found a loophole in the system where they gave a guy an incentive worth millions that he could never reach and since he didn't get it that amount of money went towards this years cap. That's partly how I think they had $31 mil to sign guys with. Pretty slick maybe since we are probably another year away from making a championship run we could do something similar and sign a huge free agent next year that could put us over the top and count a chunk of his signing bonus against next year's cap if we wanted to and avoid cap trouble down the road. Sound like a decent idea or did I read something way wrong?

03-22-2005	#17
TexansTrueFan Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Huntsville Tx Age: 28 Posts: 2,600 Rep Power: 11	id like to keep sharper, but i find that very unlikly since we have greenwood, and have picked up 2 other ILB ! Jamie is a play maker and i'll miss him if he goes !!! __________________ http://www.myspace.com/texanstruefan

03-22-2005	#18
TheOgre Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in the cellar again Posts: 3,739 Rep Power: 16	The Vikings are known for their "bogus" bonuses.

03-22-2005	#20
THEFUTURE All Pro Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 27 Posts: 519 Rep Power: 9	all i know is that we wont release him, it would be a huge hit against us in the cap, and we would get nothin except losing one of our best defenders. i dont want him to go, but if he does, then get something, anything for him

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