I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

**Texans34Life** · 09-12-2010

We gave up 463 net yards (433 passing), 3 TDs, and 7 penalties!

Dang, Frank Bush, better get your mistakes fixed quick!

**Thorn** · 09-12-2010

We were playing Manning, so I'll cut them some slack. Now, if this trend continues through Washington and Dallas, then I'm gonna have a problem with that.

BullNation4Life · 09-12-2010

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Originally Posted by Texans34Life

We gave up 463 net yards (433 passing), 3 TDs, and 7 penalties!

Dang, Frank Bush, better get your mistakes fixed quick!

When you are aggressive like that, you will have penalties...

It was Peyton Manning that got that yardage. Had it been Mark Sanchez, I would be worried....

Frank Bush doesn't coach the secondary, David Gibbs does...

**Cush** · 09-12-2010

Enjoy the win and give the young DBs some slack. The defense held their own today and gave the offense a chance to win the game.

If they can do that every week, we are in good shape no matter how many yards we give up.

TimeKiller · 09-12-2010

Jesus, how many people just didn't notice Manning passed 60 times? THESE STATS ARE INFLATED.

Pantherstang84 · 09-12-2010

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Originally Posted by BullNation4Life

When you are playing the Colts, you will have penalties...

It was Peyton Manning that got that yardage. Had it been Mark Sanchez, I would be worried....

Frank Bush doesn't coach the secondary, David Gibbs does...

fify

GP · 09-12-2010

This is a bad thread.

Stats do not tell the whole story.

We beat the Steelers, at their place, with no offense at all. All TDs off of defensive plays. Fluke defensive plays.

We made the Colts one-dimensional today. When you eat the clock, like we did, and make the Colts pass on every play to try and catch up, it takes its toll on them. Then our offense comes out and goes on long long drives that rests our defensive players enough that they can come out and withstand Manning's passing attack.

We did this without Barwin and without Cushing.

Had Foster and the OL not shown up today, we don't win the game.

This was the FIRST time I have seen this team's offense AND defense play at the same elevated level for a whole game. It was a first. Now we know, and THEY know, as well, that they can do it.

What a wild, wild scene. Now the question is this: Can they keep up the same level of play and same pace all season long? Can we avoid injuries? Will there come a let-down game and possibly residue off that let-down game that leads to a losing streak?

I don't worry about Manning's yards today. I worry about the upcoming games. Can we get to 4-0 and then get Cushing back? Because when Cushing comes back, the league is going to have to play Texans games at midnight because of the degree of violence on the TV.

Jackie Chiles · 09-12-2010

The same defense we played today against just about any other QB and we probably have 5+ sacks and give up around 10 points. Oh and we get some pretty good LB back in just 3 short weeks. Geeze.

DexmanC · 09-12-2010

Peyton was making throws NO other QB would have made. That
slant to Collie on that last touchdown was magic. I ain't worried
about the defense, YET. ONLY Peyton can make those kinds of
throws with 4 or 5 guys in his face on every snap.

**Ryan** · 09-12-2010

Garbage time stats, bro.

Well most of the end wasn't really garbage time, but we completely went in "bend but don't break" mode, and let manning nickel and dime his way to two scores, which is i think what we wanted, to take time off the clock and make them work for it.

Our defense had an outstanding first half and held them off enough in the second to win the game, so i'm fine with it. We had a good pass rush and our secondary will keep improving.

BullNation4Life · 09-12-2010

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Originally Posted by DexmanC

Peyton was making throws NO other QB would have made. That
slant to Collie on that last touchdown was magic. I ain't worried
about the defense, YET. ONLY Peyton can make those kinds of
throws with 4 or 5 guys in his face on every snap.

How about the TD to Wayne,? that was a Hall of Fame throw and catch. Pollard had Wayne covered and Manning threw it behind Pollard and Wayne and Wayne adjusted...

Only Manning....

GP · 09-12-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by DexmanC

Peyton was making throws NO other QB would have made. That
slant to Collie on that last touchdown was magic. I ain't worried
about the defense, YET. ONLY Peyton can make those kinds of
throws with 4 or 5 guys in his face on every snap.

Yeah, it was like the zombie movies where there's a horde of zombies and you don't know how the good guys keep getting out of jam after jam.

He had a horde of pissed off Texans in his face all day long. And he still managed to keep his cool and get passes off.

60 attempts and 400 yards is like 6.66 yards per pass. Ooooh! 666! An appropriate number for Manning.

6.5 yards per pass. That's a dink pass and fairly immediate tackle by a LB or DB. And then there's the freakish, we-don't-care-go-ahead-and-score TD at the end of the game. Remove the yards from that one play, and it's even worse.

Manning was hounded and attacked all day long. He doesn't like us.

ziggy29 · 09-12-2010

No other QB in the league could put up the kind of numbers Peyton did with that kind of pass rush and with Mario harassing him and hitting him all day.

Peyton was Peyton and he's going to get his yards, but aside from that the Texans thoroughly whipped the Colts in just about all phases of the game.

And the Texans have 14 of their final 15 games against teams with QBs not named Peyton Manning, so if they can keep generating that kind of heat on the QB I'm not feeling bad about the pass defense overall. Not at all; to the contrary, in fact.

Dan B. · 09-12-2010

Bad thread. Might as well call for Leinart since Schaub only had 107 yards and a 60 something passer rating.

Carr Bombed · 09-12-2010

I enjoy the win........but there's no way around this,

Kareem Jackson played like crap today. (that is my only downer in this game)

He needs to get better and since he's a rookie, I'm sure he will......but damn, he played like hot garbage today. (He looked lost on several plays)

BigBull17 · 09-12-2010

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Originally Posted by TimeKiller

Jesus, how many people just didn't notice Manning passed 60 times? THESE STATS ARE INFLATED.

Yeah, people see 400 yards and assume our guys didn't take the field. The D played ALOT better than the stats show. The DB's need a little time to get their legs, but not all together bad.

**ObsiWan** · 09-12-2010

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Originally Posted by Texans34Life

We gave up 463 net yards (433 passing), 3 TDs, and 7 penalties!

Dang, Frank Bush, better get your mistakes fixed quick!

I'm with you. Y'all best believe that the weaknesses Manning exposed today are on film and that film on our DBs will be required learning for all upcoming teams.

BigBull17 · 09-12-2010

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Garbage time stats, bro.

Well most of the end wasn't really garbage time, but we completely went in "bend but don't break" mode, and let manning nickel and dime his way to two scores, which is i think what we wanted, to take time off the clock and make them work for it.

Our defense had an outstanding first half and held them off enough in the second to win the game, so i'm fine with it. We had a good pass rush and our secondary will keep improving.

Matt doesn't throw the pick, the score could have been 13-3 or worse at the half. D played its ass off.

Goatcheese · 09-12-2010

The Texans are an offense oriented football team. Anything good you get from the defense is just gravy on your touchdown steak.

**ObsiWan** · 09-12-2010

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Originally Posted by Dan B.

Bad thread. Might as well call for Leinart since Schaub only had 107 yards and a 60 something passer rating.

...well... now that you mention it....

09-12-2010	#1
Texans34Life I BLEED TEXANS! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Displaced in Cowboys Hell Age: 34 Posts: 1,287 Rep Power: 1027	I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. We gave up 463 net yards (433 passing), 3 TDs, and 7 penalties! Dang, Frank Bush, better get your mistakes fixed quick! __________________ ADOPT-A-TEXAN 2011-2012 - AJ80 "DRE" HoustonTexans4Life - 2010-2011 CHAMPION of TexansTalk Survivor and TexansTalk Pick'em

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Thorn Dirty Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston Section: Restrained in the mental ward Age: 62 Posts: 18,319 Rep Power: 55748	Re: I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. We were playing Manning, so I'll cut them some slack. Now, if this trend continues through Washington and Dallas, then I'm gonna have a problem with that. __________________ "Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." --- John Wayne

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Cush Site Contributor Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 96 Rep Power: 159	Re: I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. Enjoy the win and give the young DBs some slack. The defense held their own today and gave the offense a chance to win the game. If they can do that every week, we are in good shape no matter how many yards we give up.

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GP Go Texans! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: TEXAS! Posts: 17,747 Rep Power: 50138	Re: I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. This is a bad thread. Stats do not tell the whole story. We beat the Steelers, at their place, with no offense at all. All TDs off of defensive plays. Fluke defensive plays. We made the Colts one-dimensional today. When you eat the clock, like we did, and make the Colts pass on every play to try and catch up, it takes its toll on them. Then our offense comes out and goes on long long drives that rests our defensive players enough that they can come out and withstand Manning's passing attack. We did this without Barwin and without Cushing. Had Foster and the OL not shown up today, we don't win the game. This was the FIRST time I have seen this team's offense AND defense play at the same elevated level for a whole game. It was a first. Now we know, and THEY know, as well, that they can do it. What a wild, wild scene. Now the question is this: Can they keep up the same level of play and same pace all season long? Can we avoid injuries? Will there come a let-down game and possibly residue off that let-down game that leads to a losing streak? I don't worry about Manning's yards today. I worry about the upcoming games. Can we get to 4-0 and then get Cushing back? Because when Cushing comes back, the league is going to have to play Texans games at midnight because of the degree of violence on the TV. __________________

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Jackie Chiles Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston Age: 29 Posts: 1,800 Rep Power: 2325	Re: I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. The same defense we played today against just about any other QB and we probably have 5+ sacks and give up around 10 points. Oh and we get some pretty good LB back in just 3 short weeks. Geeze. __________________ "If the bra don't fit, you must acquit"

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DexmanC Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,422 Rep Power: 13826	Re: I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. Peyton was making throws NO other QB would have made. That slant to Collie on that last touchdown was magic. I ain't worried about the defense, YET. ONLY Peyton can make those kinds of throws with 4 or 5 guys in his face on every snap. __________________ R.I.P. EXCUSES (2006-2009) The First Twelve Games (Where Playoff Teams Are Made): 2007: (5-7) \| 2008: (5-7) \| 2009: (5-7) \| 2010: (5-7) \| 2011: (9-3)

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Ryan THIS YEAR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beaumont,Tx Section: Section 135, Row F Posts: 4,939 Rep Power: 8795	Re: I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. Garbage time stats, bro. Well most of the end wasn't really garbage time, but we completely went in "bend but don't break" mode, and let manning nickel and dime his way to two scores, which is i think what we wanted, to take time off the clock and make them work for it. Our defense had an outstanding first half and held them off enough in the second to win the game, so i'm fine with it. We had a good pass rush and our secondary will keep improving. __________________ Wise men know their limits. Great men have no limits.

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ziggy29 Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Llano, TX Age: 47 Posts: 1,225 Rep Power: 1301	Re: I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. No other QB in the league could put up the kind of numbers Peyton did with that kind of pass rush and with Mario harassing him and hitting him all day. Peyton was Peyton and he's going to get his yards, but aside from that the Texans thoroughly whipped the Colts in just about all phases of the game. And the Texans have 14 of their final 15 games against teams with QBs not named Peyton Manning, so if they can keep generating that kind of heat on the QB I'm not feeling bad about the pass defense overall. Not at all; to the contrary, in fact.

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Dan B. Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: by the construction Age: 35 Posts: 6,214 Rep Power: 17412	Re: I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. Bad thread. Might as well call for Leinart since Schaub only had 107 yards and a 60 something passer rating.

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Carr Bombed Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wherever the US govt. sends me Posts: 12,634 Rep Power: 20239	Re: I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. I enjoy the win........but there's no way around this, Kareem Jackson played like crap today. (that is my only downer in this game) He needs to get better and since he's a rookie, I'm sure he will......but damn, he played like hot garbage today. (He looked lost on several plays)

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Goatcheese Nightmare Over Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,548 Rep Power: 22086	Re: I'm EXCITED that we beat the Colts, but our defense....damn. The Texans are an offense oriented football team. Anything good you get from the defense is just gravy on your touchdown steak. __________________ “Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.” -Arthur Schopenhauer

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