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Old 09-08-2010   #1
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Default Ben Tate taken off of IR?

I looked on NFL.com transactions page and it shows Ben as being taken off of IR? I also checked CBS sports line NFL transactions and it said the same thing? Anyone knows anything about this? RT22
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I looked on NFL.com transactions page and it shows Ben as being taken off of IR? I also checked CBS sports line NFL transactions and it said the same thing? Anyone knows anything about this? RT22
Whoa! That's very interesting.

Do you have a link? I didn't think that was possible.

EDIT: I found it. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/transactions

Houston Texans Ben Tate Taken off IR, right ankle, right fibula

Anybody have any idea what this means?
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Default Re: Ben Tate taken off of IR?

Just to put this out there before the out of control posting. A player can't be taken of of IR w/o an injury settlement. No matter when dude goes on IR he is out for the year unless there is an injury settlement. Once he get the injury settlement he is then consider waived/cut and in most cases can't return to the team which placed him on IR.


Do they have Kris Brown taken off IR because of an injury settlement? My best guess is that they got the player wrong versus some crazy move i.e. cutting a 2nd round draft pick
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Default Re: Ben Tate taken off of IR?

9/8 Ben Tate Taken off IR (right ankle, right fibula).
http://www.nfl.com/teams/transactions?team=HOU
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Default Re: Ben Tate taken off of IR?

maybe they expect him back by the end of the year? IR means they cant play at all in 2010 right?
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Default Re: Ben Tate taken off of IR?

HT.com has him as IR. I would at this point in the season believe our official site to be correct.
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maybe they expect him back by the end of the year? IR means they cant play at all in 2010 right?

Not any time in the 2010 season/postseason.
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Do they have Kris Brown taken off IR because of an injury settlement? My best guess is that they got the player wrong versus some crazy move i.e. cutting a 2nd round draft pick
That sounds like a good guess.
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Default Re: Ben Tate taken off of IR?

I'd go with they got the wrong guy listed. Kris Brown reached his injury settlement, which means he could be taken off the IR. Bet it was supposed to be him listed.
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9/8 Ben Tate Taken off IR (right ankle, right fibula).
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Yeah I stand by my other post. Somebody (or some computer) did not select the right who was (taken of IR) i.e reached an injury settlement (Kris Brown).

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/7192079.html
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Default Re: Ben Tate taken off of IR?

I can't remember how all that PUP stuff works. I know there's a 4 game deal isn't there an 8 game deal? Maybe they think he can come back, for one of the last games of the season to get him some game experience. Can't see them putting him on the roster and taken up a roster spot.
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Yeah I stand by my other post. Somebody (or some computer) did not select the right who went was "taken of IR) i.e reached an injury settlement (Kris Brown).

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/7192079.html
And McClain in the Chronicle 9/5/10:

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Two draft choices running back Ben Tate (foot, fibula) and receiver Trindon Holliday (thumb) are on injured reserve.
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I can't remember how all that PUP stuff works. I know there's a 4 game deal isn't there an 8 game deal? Maybe they think he can come back, for one of the last games of the season to get him some game experience. Can't see them putting him on the roster and taken up a roster spot.
PUP is for six games in season, but you have to be declared at some point in the off-season( I don't want to look up the exact point)

IR is the players death sentence in terms of playing in the regular or post season in the NFL.
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I can't remember how all that PUP stuff works. I know there's a 4 game deal isn't there an 8 game deal? Maybe they think he can come back, for one of the last games of the season to get him some game experience. Can't see them putting him on the roster and taken up a roster spot.
Once on IR always on IR for that season/postseason. PUP allows return. Tate would never be able to return within PUP recovery time alotment.
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And McClain in the Chronicle 9/5/10:
Wow..corrected my first post for grammar.
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aj has a very concise explanation of how PUP works.........active and reserve........for neither of which does Tate qualify.
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Default Re: Ben Tate taken off of IR?

This has to be Kris Brown's injury settlement getting screwed up by someone and it cascading through the news services.
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Default Re: Ben Tate taken off of IR?

Or, god forbid, Tate is broken, a settlement is reached and there goes our rushing hopes for 2011 :/
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Default Re: Ben Tate taken off of IR?

Spoke to a reliable source about this last night. Didn't get 100% confirmation but I'm leaning towards an error on those websites.

Going from memory (so take it fwiw), you can't be removed from IR without first passing a physical and then being waived or released, OR be waived-injured or released with a settlement. (waivers for players with less than 4 years service, outright release for those with more than 4).

Tate hasn't been waived-injured or released with a settlement from what I was able to gather. 'Now that would be news' said my source. Um ...no sheet.

At any rate, this one smells like an error on the part of those reporting it.
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