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I know there are a few Cowboy fans here so I figured you'd like to know about Emmitt's return to Dallas.
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Not too surprising, and it was a classy move by Jones. |
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Now for Jerry Rice to get the memo.
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Thanks for the info, appreciate it!
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Thanks. I saw the story on the Dallas Morning News online.
Nice gesture. |
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I think that is one of the most classy ways to retire. Retiring with the team who thought you had what it took to be succesful in the NFL and picked you in the draft. I hope Johnson Davis Robinson and Carr all end up retiring with us like Smith did wit the Boys.
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I hope Mark Brunell retires as a Jag... of course he'll have to come back like Emmit did.
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Good for Emmit. It's about time the Cowpies showed a little class. It's been in very short supply there for a few years.
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That is awesome. I was hoping that Emmitt could do this.
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I'd bet in hindsight Parcells and Jones wish they had signed him to play for Dallas the last two years--no public black eye and production at least as good Hambrick/George.
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I was disappointed that salary issues wouldn't allow the Cowboys to afford Emmitt those last two years, and glad he had a chance to play with a team that could. As for Hambrick, I was never believed that he could contribute as a starter. He wanted his opportunity to shine at the expense of Emmitt's playing time, and he still couldn't get the job done in Dallas or Arizona.
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Jerry I'm sure would have kept Emmitt if he could have. Bill I'm not so sure about. |
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I thought they already did that, sometime around SB time. He was activated for a day so he could retire a Cowgirl.
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Cheese alert!
Sorry, but this little smoke screen and mirrors routine does not erase the embarassment of ES playing as a Cardinal for the past two years. Who are they trying to fool, anyway?
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Emmitt's last 4 years with Dallas:
1999 1397 yards, 4.2 avg, 11 TDs 2000 1203 yards, 4.1 avg, 9 TDs 2001 1021 yards, 3.9 avg, 3 TDs 2002 975 yards, 3.8 avg, 5 TDs Anybody else see a trend? Can anybody explain how it would've made sense to bring him back for the amount of money he was looking for? And spare me the "he said he'd take a lot less to play in Dallas". This is what they always say after they get their fat contract with another team. It's called public relations...something Emmitt is very familiar with. It was sad to see him go. It always is. But it was his time and everybody but Emmitt knew it. Just as it was Aikman's. He could've/should've retired a Cowboy 2 seasons ago. How this is the Cowboy's organization's fault is laughable. |
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3.7, 3.0, 3.4 & 3.3 ypc--see a trend? Maybe not, maybe it is a consistancy of performing horribly in comparison to the meager 3.8 ypc Emmitt was putting out. But obviously it justified a $4.5 mil contract. 4.5, 4.2, 4.0 ypc--see a trend? Oops 4.6 ypc the next year. Maybe there is more than just being old that can account for decreased or increased production.
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Back during the time of Emmitt's impending departure, I read that he had a meeting with Jerry Jones and the Cowboys offered him more than league minimum, but far below what he could have made with another team. IMHO, Emmitt was all about the business of getting the best contract possible under those circumstances, and he went for the best offer on the table. I'm happy that now that he has handled his business, he can now return and retire from the team for which he was so great.
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1. It wasn't $4.5 million. It was $660,000 (which BTW, was the league minimum for a veteran such as George). 2. George was signed the season after Emmitt left. It wasn't as if George replaced him. He was brought in after they realized Hambrick wasn't the answer. If you really wanted to make this point, you should've brought up how much Hambrick (the guy that was expected to replace Emmitt after averaging 4.6 ypc in 3 seasons) made. 3. The $4.5 million was entirely incentive based. Are you aware of what those incentives were (I'm not...just asking out of curiosity)? Do you believe Dallas had any concerns he was going to reach those incentives after drafting Julius Jones in the 2nd round? Even with Jones missing half the season George still didn't reach the incentives. Quote:
And if "stupid money" was thrown at George (1 year, $1.5 million bonus, $660,000 base with incentive that could reach $4.5 million), do you think it would've been fair to offer Smith such a contract? Do you think Smith would've accepted such a contract? |
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The $4.5 was not entirely incentive based. $1.5 was in guaranteed signing bonus. Another 660k was in salary (for which there is a date after which the year's salary becomes guaranteed). So $2.16 mil was in essentially guaranteed money. No I do not know what the incentives were--I can hazard guesses as can you on 1000yds rushing 4.0 ypc or similar deals that George may have felt he had a chance of reaching. If you have a Cowboys capologist up there maybe you have a source to figure out if the bonuses were considered likely or unlikely to be earned. Quote:
Like I said to LMBH, my thinking on this subject is definitely affected by the offer information I saw. As with anything, if the starting facts are wrong then the conclusion may be wrong. At this point, it is my impression Smith would have resigned with Dallas for even less than he did with Arizona--$3.75 mil per year--to stay a Cowboy and retire there. I think he wanted (a) to keep playing and (b) to get a decent, not elite, salary.
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