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El Tejano · 08-30-2010

Why aren't we talking about our Red Zone percentage in this last game? We were in there 4 times and only came out with one TD (that was the one where KJ returned his INT). That game could've easily been 28-0 at halftime.

If we want to beat Indy we gotta get better at this. Indy is going to score points. We gotta score more. I've noticed the teams that keep the pressure on Manning (not sack pressure, pressure to score) typically are the teams that beat them. We can't do that settling for FGs when we have the ball at the 5 yd line.

I wish I could see that killer instinct.

Tailgate · 08-30-2010

Holding penalty cost us 1 TD. A couple 3rd and longs in other situations if I remember correctly??

I think as long as we continue to run the ball, and stay away from reverses or half back passes this area should improve despite the percentages from Sat night.

**beerlover** · 08-30-2010

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Originally Posted by El Tejano

Why aren't we talking about our Red Zone percentage in this last game? We were in there 4 times and only came out with one TD (that was the one where KJ returned his INT). That game could've easily been 28-0 at halftime.

If we want to beat Indy we gotta get better at this. Indy is going to score points. We gotta score more. I've noticed the teams that keep the pressure on Manning (not sack pressure, pressure to score) typically are the teams that beat them. We can't do that settling for FGs when we have the ball at the 5 yd line.

I wish I could see that killer instinct.

I'm not sure its killer instinct as much as lack of red zone talent. other than Schaub to Andre everyone else seem like a group of overachievers, IMO. If you don't think so what is the next highest drafted starting offensive playmaker on the Texans?

El Tejano · 08-30-2010

We got lucky on the TD too because of that defensive penalty when Ware hit Schaub from behind.

I don't want the same thing as last year. We got to score a TD more than kick FGs.

El Tejano · 08-30-2010

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Originally Posted by beerlover

I'm not sure its killer instinct as much as lack of red zone talent. other than Schaub to Andre everyone else seem like a group of overachievers, IMO. If you don't think so what is the next highest drafted starting offensive playmaker on the Texans?

Owen Daniels. He wasn't playing but I'm curious how much more he helps. Although he was in the Jville and Az game last year too.

**badboy** · 08-30-2010

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Originally Posted by El Tejano

Owen Daniels. He wasn't playing but I'm curious how much more he helps. Although he was in the Jville and Az game last year too.

TEs will play a huge role in Red Zone imo during regular season.

El Tejano · 08-30-2010

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Originally Posted by badboy

TEs will play a huge role in Red Zone imo during regular season.

Honestly if Daniels wants to be mentioned in the Gates or Witten light, this is where he will have to become a star.

Rey · 08-30-2010

I really think that this past games failed red zone attempts were due to lack of execution...Schaub missed on a few passes...Myers had the holding penalty...

I think we have the players to get it done but we just need better execution and more creative play calling down there.

sportfan73 · 08-30-2010

we still fail to ever throw the ball into the endzone, it's just a series of short crossing routes and WR screens, need to add something different to the arsenal

rmartin65 · 08-30-2010

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Originally Posted by El Tejano

Owen Daniels. He wasn't playing but I'm curious how much more he helps. Although he was in the Jville and Az game last year too.

Jacoby Jones was a third rounder, as was Slaton (I dont know if you could count him as a weapon right now. But the talent is there).

Rey · 08-30-2010

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Originally Posted by El Tejano

Owen Daniels. He wasn't playing but I'm curious how much more he helps. Although he was in the Jville and Az game last year too.

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Originally Posted by rmartin65

Jacoby Jones was a third rounder, as was Slaton (I dont know if you could count him as a weapon right now. But the talent is there).

Gotta mention Duane Brown, Eric Winston, and Antoine Caldwell.

And while Walter wasn't drafted high, he has clearly played up to the level of atleast a fourth rd. draft pick.

Rey · 08-30-2010

I'd like to see James Casey get involved in some goal line packages too...

Despite what people have said about Dre always needing to be on the field, I would not mind seeing us use 3 TE's down there...Casey, Dreesen, Daniels with leach as the FB and either Slaton or Foster as the RB and Leach at fullback.

That'd make it tough for defenses because all of those TE's are good receiving targets, but we'd still be able to come out and pound the defense.

We have some capable RZ weapons, I just think we need to get more creative (not stupid ala the half back pass) in how we use them.

**ChampionTexan** · 08-30-2010

This could be one area where if the playcalling is significantly different than past seasons, they may just be keeping their powder dry and saving it for a real game.

That said, if the main difference Dennison brings to the RZ offense is the concept of running it down their throat, then they're closer, but they're not there so far.

The Pencil Neck · 08-30-2010

I think in the regular season, there's going to be less passing and more running in the red zone (at least, once we get inside the 10). And I think that's going to improve our RZ%.

DexmanC · 08-30-2010

I think the Texans are trying to hide the fact, we're gonna get a
heavy dose of Arian Foster in the RedZone. He looks like the
second-coming of Terrell Davis, when it comes to his vision.

El Tejano · 08-30-2010

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Originally Posted by DexmanC

I think the Texans are trying to hide the fact, we're gonna get a
heavy dose of Arian Foster in the RedZone. He looks like the
second-coming of Terrell Davis, when it comes to his vision.

Oh how great that would be!!!

Norg · 08-30-2010

Umm all teams have problems in the red zone plus we will be better off

with OD coming back wade smith getting better and other oline depth along with Garrett getting better with the two tight end sets hell maybe 3 and a stable Run game i think we will be fine u wanna get better in the red zone its obvs Run the ball better and we are doing that

and didnt we score more points then the colts last week yeah nuff said and the colts still cant get the running game going they hate the new Ref rule and we seen what is OBVS Blitz manning every down with all your arsenal and stuff might happen LOL

El Tejano · 08-30-2010

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Originally Posted by Norg

Umm all teams have problems in the red zone plus we will be better off

with OD coming back wade smith getting better and other oline depth along with Garrett getting better with the two tight end sets hell maybe 3 and a stable Run game i think we will be fine u wanna get better in the red zone its obvs Run the ball better and we are doing that

and didnt we score more points then the colts last week yeah nuff said and the colts still cant get the running game going they hate the new Ref rule and we seen what is OBVS Blitz manning every down with all your arsenal and stuff might happen LOL

If there was one team that doesn't show what they really can do, it would be Indy. Peyton is an OC on the field while playing QB. He knows that offense so well.

**beerlover** · 08-30-2010

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Originally Posted by DexmanC

I think the Texans are trying to hide the fact, we're gonna get a
heavy dose of Arian Foster in the RedZone. He looks like the
second-coming of Terrell Davis, when it comes to his vision.

here is some evidence to support your theory http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog...fantasy-265848 I just want to see it over the course of regular season/playoffs

Norg · 08-30-2010

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Originally Posted by El Tejano

If there was one team that doesn't show what they really can do, it would be Indy. Peyton is an OC on the field while playing QB. He knows that offense so well.

still has no running game iam telling u the texans are not going to respect the colts run game wk 1 with addai getting a concussion and being banged up along with the colts O line injuries we will be in a Nickle D all day long

along with prob doubling Clark and Wayne and BLitzing Manning if the colts are going to win week 1 its going to be all peyton so yeah i thinks thats going to be our gameplan nothing has changed LOL

08-30-2010	#1
El Tejano Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,748 Rep Power: 6842	Red zone? Why aren't we talking about our Red Zone percentage in this last game? We were in there 4 times and only came out with one TD (that was the one where KJ returned his INT). That game could've easily been 28-0 at halftime. If we want to beat Indy we gotta get better at this. Indy is going to score points. We gotta score more. I've noticed the teams that keep the pressure on Manning (not sack pressure, pressure to score) typically are the teams that beat them. We can't do that settling for FGs when we have the ball at the 5 yd line. I wish I could see that killer instinct.

08-30-2010	#2
Tailgate Fall of Hame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX - Born and raised Age: 35 Posts: 2,678 Rep Power: 8909	Re: Red zone? Holding penalty cost us 1 TD. A couple 3rd and longs in other situations if I remember correctly?? I think as long as we continue to run the ball, and stay away from reverses or half back passes this area should improve despite the percentages from Sat night.

08-30-2010	#4
El Tejano Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9,748 Rep Power: 6842	Re: Red zone? We got lucky on the TD too because of that defensive penalty when Ware hit Schaub from behind. I don't want the same thing as last year. We got to score a TD more than kick FGs.

08-30-2010	#8
Rey Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,645 Rep Power: 46112	Re: Red zone? I really think that this past games failed red zone attempts were due to lack of execution...Schaub missed on a few passes...Myers had the holding penalty... I think we have the players to get it done but we just need better execution and more creative play calling down there.

08-30-2010	#9
sportfan73 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 135	Re: Red zone? we still fail to ever throw the ball into the endzone, it's just a series of short crossing routes and WR screens, need to add something different to the arsenal

08-30-2010	#12
Rey Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,645 Rep Power: 46112	Re: Red zone? I'd like to see James Casey get involved in some goal line packages too... Despite what people have said about Dre always needing to be on the field, I would not mind seeing us use 3 TE's down there...Casey, Dreesen, Daniels with leach as the FB and either Slaton or Foster as the RB and Leach at fullback. That'd make it tough for defenses because all of those TE's are good receiving targets, but we'd still be able to come out and pound the defense. We have some capable RZ weapons, I just think we need to get more creative (not stupid ala the half back pass) in how we use them.

08-30-2010	#13
ChampionTexan Site Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,325 Rep Power: 25832	Re: Red zone? This could be one area where if the playcalling is significantly different than past seasons, they may just be keeping their powder dry and saving it for a real game. That said, if the main difference Dennison brings to the RZ offense is the concept of running it down their throat, then they're closer, but they're not there so far. __________________ Please don't feed the trolls.

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The Pencil Neck Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 51 Posts: 14,401 Rep Power: 45486	Re: Red zone? I think in the regular season, there's going to be less passing and more running in the red zone (at least, once we get inside the 10). And I think that's going to improve our RZ%.

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DexmanC Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,422 Rep Power: 13826	Re: Red zone? I think the Texans are trying to hide the fact, we're gonna get a heavy dose of Arian Foster in the RedZone. He looks like the second-coming of Terrell Davis, when it comes to his vision. __________________ R.I.P. EXCUSES (2006-2009) The First Twelve Games (Where Playoff Teams Are Made): 2007: (5-7) \| 2008: (5-7) \| 2009: (5-7) \| 2010: (5-7) \| 2011: (9-3)

08-30-2010	#17
Norg Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,886 Rep Power: 2454	Re: Red zone? Umm all teams have problems in the red zone plus we will be better off with OD coming back wade smith getting better and other oline depth along with Garrett getting better with the two tight end sets hell maybe 3 and a stable Run game i think we will be fine u wanna get better in the red zone its obvs Run the ball better and we are doing that and didnt we score more points then the colts last week yeah nuff said and the colts still cant get the running game going they hate the new Ref rule and we seen what is OBVS Blitz manning every down with all your arsenal and stuff might happen LOL

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