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Old 08-29-2010   #1
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During the postgame interview, as well as the info on Slaton, Kubiak also mentioned that Kris Brown got injured in this game. He said it was plantar fascitis. Not sure how much of an effect it can have on him but it is something to take note of.
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During the postgame interview, as well as the info on Slaton, Kubiak also mentioned that Kris Brown got injured in this game. He said it was plantar fascitis. Not sure how much of an effect it can have on him but it is something to take note of.
If this is true, Neil Rackers is our new kicker.

I understand plantar fasciitis to be a condition, not an injury. The plantar fascia is connective tissue between the heal and the sole of the foot. It becomes inflamed and makes it painful to bear weight on that foot. It usually requires surgery.

Texans fans should be familiar with this condition. Mario Williams played his entire rookie season with it.
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Kicker competition over.....

If everything is equal, you got to take the guy who's healthy. This injury could actually be a blessing....makes that decision MUCH easier.
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Kicker competition over.....

If everything is equal, you got to take the guy who's healthy. This injury could actually be a blessing....makes that decision MUCH easier.
Very true. I thought Rackers had the edge anyway, but this closes the case for Kubiak and an FO that can be loyal to a fault.

Kris Brown said last year that he couldn't figure out why his kicks were pulling left. Maybe tight fascia in your planted foot could be the reason.
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If they do go with Rackers, I hope KB gets a chance to retire rather than being cut. He deserves it after all these years with the team.
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If they do go with Rackers, I hope KB gets a chance to retire rather than being cut. He deserves it after all these years with the team.
No way he's going to retire.

If they don't IR him, he'll be kicking for somebody.
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If they do go with Rackers, I hope KB gets a chance to retire rather than being cut. He deserves it after all these years with the team.
Why would he retire though? Unless he thinks this injury will prevent him from ever kicking again (at least at a high level) I would assume he would take time off to let the injury heal and sign with a team next year.
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KB injured, that sucks. I am not convinced Rackers is the answer. His leg power from 50+ is severely lacking....

You guys better be careful what you wish for because the first time Rackers comes up short on a 53 yarder, you're gonna wish you had Kris Brown back...
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I'd rather this be decieded on talent and not injury. I hate to see this.
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Very true. I thought Rackers had the edge anyway, but this closes the case for Kubiak and an FO that can be loyal to a fault.

Kris Brown said last year that he couldn't figure out why his kicks were pulling left. Maybe tight fascia in your planted foot could be the reason
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Last year, Brown was battling this same plantar fasciitis problem.

Here is a simple explaination of what plantar fasciitis, how it's caused, and what it's implications are. In this explanation, Eli Manning is used as the example, but the need for repeated "planting" of the foot and "push off" is easily extrapolated to Brown's case.

And here are examples of its most common treatments.

Nine-five percent of cases can be treated without surgery. One of the other common treatments not mentioned in the video, is injection of corticosteroids into the plantar fascia to decrease its inflammation. These injections, though, can weaken the fascia and increase its chance of rupture, and hence require surgical repair.

If the condition still persists after six months of conservative treatment, a technique of extra-corporeal shock wave therapy has been found to have some surprisingly good results. This is the use of a high frequency shock wave (much like breaking up kidney stones with sonic shock lithotripsy) to stimulate healing.

If problems still continue for a prolonged period of time and are unresponsive to the above treatments, surgery may be needed to release (lengthen) the fascia. Return to play success following surgery has been reported anywhere from 70-90%.

The problem with this condition is that it is easily aggravated, and the most important part of the treatment requires that the player returns to activity as pain has been shown to resolve...........most players try to play or are made to play through their injury and end up re-injuring and reinflaming the fascia.
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Just proof that no one on this board reads what I write. KB has suffered from this since the 2008 season. He bought his own hyperbaric chamber to help with the healing. Not only that, he had a severe staph infection in his leg that required IV antibiotics. I saw him limp before the game started last night, and was wondering if this was still giving him problems. Most members of this board are to hell bent on crusifying him than trying to understand why he had a lousy season last year.

Understand something!! I am not a homer! If this is still a problem for Kris then he needs to be replaced. He would be the first one to tell you that!! I hope the Texans puts him on IR simply because I do NOT think Rackers is the final answer. Did anyone pay attention to his warmups at halftime?? If not, you should have. Give Rackers this year to PROVE what he can do and give Kris a year to heal. If this is long term for Kris, then please God, let him retire a Texan!!
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KB injured, that sucks. I am not convinced Rackers is the answer. His leg power from 50+ is severely lacking....

You guys better be careful what you wish for because the first time Rackers comes up short on a 53 yarder, you're gonna wish you had Kris Brown back...
I don't expect kicks from 50+ to land each time, however I do expect 20-40 yarders every time, and Kris Brown missed a lot of those last year. I'll take the accurate kicker in Rackers over KB.

And if he's injured, that makes it that much easier.
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KB injured, that sucks. I am not convinced Rackers is the answer. His leg power from 50+ is severely lacking....

You guys better be careful what you wish for because the first time Rackers comes up short on a 53 yarder, you're gonna wish you had Kris Brown back...
The first time he comes up short on a 53 yarder, I'm just going to assume that Kris Brown would have kicked it 60 yards outside the uprights.

I'll take accuracy over distance any day.
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Just proof that no one on this board reads what I write. KB has suffered from this since the 2008 season. He bought his own hyperbaric chamber to help with the healing. Not only that, he had a severe staph infection in his leg that required IV antibiotics. I saw him limp before the game started last night, and was wondering if this was still giving him problems. Most members of this board are to hell bent on crusifying him than trying to understand why he had a lousy season last year.

Understand something!! I am not a homer! If this is still a problem for Kris then he needs to be replaced. He would be the first one to tell you that!! I hope the Texans puts him on IR simply because I do NOT think Rackers is the final answer. Did anyone pay attention to his warmups at halftime?? If not, you should have. Give Rackers this year to PROVE what he can do and give Kris a year to heal. If this is long term for Kris, then please God, let him retire a Texan!!
This certainly isn't the first time I've heard of his PF woes but if you play, you're fair game for criticism. Being just injured enough to play but not do well is the Tracy McGrady way of life. I'm not saying KB is a wuss like Tmac, I mean did you see that tackle last night?! I'm just saying performance matters and if you need to sit to be healthy to give your VERY best performance, you do it for yourself and the team.

I think this pretty much puts a lock on Rackers being the kicker.
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Hoping for an injury in or for another player to make the team is not the way to be. If the coaches do not know who the kicker should be without the other being injured then maybe they should go. If Kris is not right then it is serious and I hope the Texans do place him on IR and then let him decide the direction he'd like to go from there JMO.
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i wonder if that is the extra "hitch in his giddy-up" that i've been criticizing for the past season and a half. any bets on if this began the back half of 2008? kris brown is excessively on his toes (which according to CND's link is a cause) during approach and has become increasingly "bouncy" for lack of a better term - almost skipping. as i've been saying, kris browns problems are entirely in his approach and plantar fasciitis certainly makes sense.

i cant say that rackers is any more aesthetically pleasing as the complete opposite. very squat with short steps and more of a roundhouse than i like, but he's got a much better base and plant, leading to better balance than brown - making it easier for him to be consistant if not all together accurate (not always inclusive), but also accounts for the difference in distance between the two.

i'm hoping rackers is our kicker, but i certainly dont want the decision to be made on injury. with brown's hometown and one of the nicest individuals to ever wear a uniform status, distance, and "athleticism" as evident by his tackles on special teams (a reminder given by potentially saving a touchdown with a great form tackle on the opening kickoff last night) ... i was hoping this to be an earned battle. i dont think we've seen a kick yet that was more than a couple inches off of dead center, the competition was certainly working.

well, bet's off as shetex confirms this began in 08.
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This certainly isn't the first time I've heard of his PF woes but if you play, you're fair game for criticism. Being just injured enough to play but not do well is the Tracy McGrady way of life. I'm not saying KB is a wuss like Tmac, I mean did you see that tackle last night?! I'm just saying performance matters and if you need to sit to be healthy to give your VERY best performance, you do it for yourself and the team.

I think this pretty much puts a lock on Rackers being the kicker.
Agree 10000 percent. Well said.

Regardless of what was wrong with Kris Brown, all I know is whenever he is about to kick I get a knot in my stomach and hold my breath.
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If a player is put on IR, what does that do to a roster spot on the 53? This could be a blessing in disguise folks. They were pretty much tied in their preseason competition. I was just as aggrevated at Brown last year as the next guy, but he has a stronger leg than Rackers does, IMHO. If we IR him, can we use Rackers, get a feel for him while Kris heals up, and if Rackers ends up sucking, cut him and insert Brown? I'm not saying that Kris isn't hurt, but this is a good way to carry 2 kickers. How long do you have to be out if placed on IR?
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If a player is put on IR, what does that do to a roster spot on the 53? This could be a blessing in disguise folks. They were pretty much tied in their preseason competition. I was just as aggrevated at Brown last year as the next guy, but he has a stronger leg than Rackers does, IMHO. If we IR him, can we use Rackers, get a feel for him while Kris heals up, and if Rackers ends up sucking, cut him and insert Brown? I'm not saying that Kris isn't hurt, but this is a good way to carry 2 kickers. How long do you have to be out if placed on IR?
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If a player is put on IR, what does that do to a roster spot on the 53? This could be a blessing in disguise folks. They were pretty much tied in their preseason competition. I was just as aggrevated at Brown last year as the next guy, but he has a stronger leg than Rackers does, IMHO. If we IR him, can we use Rackers, get a feel for him while Kris heals up, and if Rackers ends up sucking, cut him and insert Brown? I'm not saying that Kris isn't hurt, but this is a good way to carry 2 kickers. How long do you have to be out if placed on IR?
IR does not count against the roster spot but if a player thinks they can play, they generally request an injury settlement and a release so they can find a team to hook up with and play for.

If we IR'd Kris, he'd probably request a settlement. There's definitely some team that would hire him, PF and all.
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