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Old 08-28-2010   #1
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Default Back Shoulder Fade? never?

I was watching the cowboys play the other night and also the green bay game and they really throw a lot of backshoulder fade routes in redzone successfully. its almost like an option route, if the wr gets a step on the cb they throw a fade, if he is covered its backshoulder. we have the best wr in the league and usually have trouble running in the redzone, so there is no reason why we shouldnt try this. and i think it would work. its past due for Andre to get a 15 td season anyway.
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I was watching the cowboys play the other night and also the green bay game and they really throw a lot of backshoulder fade routes in redzone successfully. its almost like an option route, if the wr gets a step on the cb they throw a fade, if he is covered its backshoulder. we have the best wr in the league and usually have trouble running in the redzone, so there is no reason why we shouldnt try this. and i think it would work. its past due for Andre to get a 15 td season anyway.
We've also got one of the most (if not the most) accurate QBs in the league. It would be nice, if AJ & Schaub are at that level (in sync) enough to add that to their repertoire. If you think AJ is unstoppable now,....
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We've also got one of the most (if not the most) accurate QBs in the league. It would be nice, if AJ & Schaub are at that level (in sync) enough to add that to their repertoire. If you think AJ is unstoppable now,....
I'm not sure what game you are watching Schaub has horrible down the field accuracy, receivers are always having to make bad adjustments which means the DB catches up to them and makes the tackle..
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I'm not sure what game you are watching Schaub has horrible down the field accuracy, receivers are always having to make bad adjustments which means the DB catches up to them and makes the tackle..
you are talkin about schaubs deeep passes, yeah he cant throw as far as some qb's but we are talking about short intermediate routes, and he is very accurate
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we have the best wr in the league and usually have trouble running in the redzone, so there is no reason why we shouldnt try this. and i think it would work. its past due for Andre to get a 15 td season anyway.
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I'm not sure what game you are watching Schaub has horrible down the field accuracy, receivers are always having to make bad adjustments which means the DB catches up to them and makes the tackle..
Then I guess it's a good thing down field accuracy has no bearing if you're in the Red Zone.
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you are talkin about schaubs deeep passes, yeah he cant throw as far as some qb's but we are talking about short intermediate routes, and he is very accurate
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Then I guess it's a good thing down field accuracy has no bearing if you're in the Red Zone.

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I'm not sure what game you are watching Schaub has horrible down the field accuracy, receivers are always having to make bad adjustments which means the DB catches up to them and makes the tackle..
And some show their lack of same. We're talking about backshoulder passes, and he's talking about downfield accuracy.
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Default Re: Back Shoulder Fade? never?

I guess people will just repeat crap and it becomes true. Claiming Schaub has bad down field accuracy is a joke. Schaub had more long completions last year than all but one QB and that QB got many of his long completions through YAC.
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I guess people will just repeat crap and it becomes true. Claiming Schaub has bad down field accuracy is a joke. Schaub had more long completions last year than all but one QB and that QB got many of his long completions through YAC.
I didn't argue that. He "qualified" his statement saying the WR had to adjust extensively. That's another argument that would have had no end.
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I guess people will just repeat crap and it becomes true. Claiming Schaub has bad down field accuracy is a joke. Schaub had more long completions last year than all but one QB and that QB got many of his long completions through YAC.
ya schaub is very good down the field- he does underthrow sometimes but its usually to protect the wr. when does he overthrow a wide open wr like some big armed qbs do though? the guys that criticise schaub never remember those throws from other qbs though
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Default Re: Back Shoulder Fade? never?

They ran one successfully the year before against the Bears. They tried one last season against the Patriots but AJ got jammed at the line and the play was blown up.
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I guess people will just repeat crap and it becomes true. Claiming Schaub has bad down field accuracy is a joke. Schaub had more long completions last year than all but one QB and that QB got many of his long completions through YAC.
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Warner?
Romo actually - by one pass.
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