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I mean I seriously do not think there have been. I think we will see a lot more of Brown and Rackers in the last two preseason games. I don't see how the coaches are going to choose the best when there have not been much of either one them thus far in no real mess ups thus far. What do you think?
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I mean I seriously do not think there have been. I think we will see a lot more of Brown and Rackers in the last two preseason games. I don't see how the coaches are going to choose the best when there have not been much of either one them thus far in no real mess ups thus far. What do you think?
I think its Brown's job to lose right now. Brown has been fine in camp and in the preseason. Kubes knows him. If it is equal, Kubes will likely take his guy over one he doesn't really know.
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I think its Brown's job to lose right now. Brown has been fine in camp and in the preseason. Kubes knows him. If it is equal, Kubes will likely take his guy over one he doesn't really know.
I see Brown making the team unless he has an awful next two games.
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Im still holding out hope for Rackers. I think giving Brown the job back speaks poorly for accountabiliity.

You have a season like that, for any reason, and you should be gone
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................and he DOES know him all too well............
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I just think this whole kicker battle might not go the way we all thought.
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I was praying KB would get a chance to miss that 50 yarder but the screen got blown up in the backfield. I'm praying KB starts goes back to his old ways soon enough so we can get a kicker out there we can rely on. I will be highly disappointed if Rackers doesn't win the job.
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Is it just me, or did Kubiak look unhappy after Rackers made the 51 yarder?

I think Kubiak wants to keep Brown for some strange, strange reason.
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Kubiak's loyal, that's why. But, like said above, Brown needs to be held accountable for that season last year.

Then again, maybe he knows it and he won't **** up this year?
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Kubiak allows these guys to make huge paychecks, and all they get
for screwing up is "shame on you guys."

"We wubs kubes." is the battlecry, because no other self-respecting
coach would put up with a bullshit performance like yesterday. EVERY
regular season game matters, and all we get is "Oh well, it's a long
season. Fifteen games to go."

Last year, the Jets debacle on OPENING DAY put the Jets IN to postseason,
and sent the Texans HOME. The Saints practiced ALL WEEK the same
way they expect to attack the season.

Texans show up one game, take the next one off, for 3 years in a row now.
They've never shown us how preseason isn't what should be expected
over the Real Sixteen. They are RIGHT BACK into the one game up, one game
down pattern. If they stay true to form, they will roll Dallas and take a
dump against Tampa.

Make sure the distributors have that pink soap on standby if this turns
into a repeat of the 2007, 2008, and 2009 seasons.
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I will say that Brown's kickoffs have looked better. Kickoff performance can translate directly to yards on the field, and that can make a significant difference on its own: figure 25 yards a game (5 yards each from say, one starting-half kickoff and 4 scores). If there's not a clear winner in the field goal arena, this is likely to be the difference, and I think based on that, Brown currently has the edge.
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Last year, the Jets debacle on OPENING DAY put the Jets IN to postseason,
and sent the Texans HOME.

Hopefully, the NO game was our jets game and we wake the fluck up before the season starts.
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Hopefully, the NO game was our jets game and we wake the fluck up before the season starts.
I would say that, False Start, but the same thing happened last year
AT RELIANT against the Saints. They exposed the Texans' weakness
up the middle on both sides of the ball, and every team since exploited
it.

All a good team needs to beat the Texans, is a good enough running game,
and a quarterback to kill our LB's in the middle of the field with playaction, and
our defensive ends with draws and screens.

They need to stop this trend, NOW. You PRACTICE how you PLAY.
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Rackers seems to have better accuracy than Brown from what I've seen so far, but he doesn't seem to have anywhere near the range. Brown could boot FGs from 60 yards out, but Rackers needed a lucky bounce to get that 52 yarder.

It comes down to whether you want a guy who will make 90% of his kicks inside the 35 or a guy who has the leg to go those extra few yards but will inexplicably shank easy field goals.

I'd rather have a reliable guy. Atleast you know not to send him out there from the 36. You never know when you can count on Brown anymore.
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Brown is winning. If you look, his kicks are going right down the middle now. That doinker 51 yarder that Rackers made and the line drive kickoff that landed at the 20 put KB ahead of the race.
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Brown is winning. If you look, his kicks are going right down the middle now. That doinker 51 yarder that Rackers made and the line drive kickoff that landed at the 20 put KB ahead of the race.


How many 50+ has Brown made lately?
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I would say that, False Start, but the same thing happened last year
AT RELIANT against the Saints. They exposed the Texans' weakness
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All a good team needs to beat the Texans, is a good enough running game,
and a quarterback to kill our LB's in the middle of the field with playaction, and
our defensive ends with draws and screens.

They need to stop this trend, NOW. You PRACTICE how you PLAY.
Good points.

As far as the kicker situation, I would like to see more of Rackers, and less KB.
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I would say the Texans have more than just the kicker battle to worry about after the last doo doo preformence.
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Rackers seems to have better accuracy than Brown from what I've seen so far, but he doesn't seem to have anywhere near the range. Brown could boot FGs from 60 yards out, but Rackers needed a lucky bounce to get that 52 yarder.

It comes down to whether you want a guy who will make 90% of his kicks inside the 35 or a guy who has the leg to go those extra few yards but will inexplicably shank easy field goals.

I'd rather have a reliable guy. Atleast you know not to send him out there from the 36. You never know when you can count on Brown anymore.
Couldn't agree more.

I just did the math and teams averaged a little over 3 field goals, over the course the entire season, that were in the 50-59 yard range (Houston attempted 4).

I'd rather have the guy who's going to almost be a given from 20-49 yards but can't kick anything over 50 than the guy who can get the distance on the 3-4 50 yard attempts they have over the entire season but shanks game winners.
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