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Wednesday noon, the folks at Sirius got a hold of Charley in Hawaii. He's on the NFL Competition Committee. (nice place to hold the committee meetings
)They wanted his comments regarding Orlando Pace. His response was that the Rams have his rights and they've franchised him. "We brought him in, and gave him a physical, and agreed to the terms of the contract" if the Rams trade him to us, but the ball is in the Rams court. It was a long shot, but we tried." Then they asked him his opinion about all the teams that are converting to a 3-4 this season, in light of the fact that that the Texans have been running it for the past three seasons, and how would that effect Texans' chances of getting the right players for the 3-4 in the draft. He said that you need to bear in mind that only two college teams run the 3-4. Maryland and Virginia. So when you're drafting players to play linebacker for the 3-4, you have to project. (He practically yelled that word.) He said the teams that are converting to 3-4 this season "will be interesting to watch". He added, "Atlanta began the season last year with the 3-4, but went back to the 4-3 when they figured out they didn't have the personnel for it. You have to have the right players to make the 3-4 work. We've been running it for 3 years now, and we still don't have all the pieces yet!" He said there are different styles of the 3-4. (I didn't know that) He said that the Texans run a different style of the 3-4 than the rest of the teams. Asked to elaborate . . . he said "in our style, we want the down linemen to tie up the offensive line, and we want the linebackers the find the ball and cover. Not just the ones on the edge, all four of them". He added, "in other styles, you might have the front 3 making a more direct input, but in ours, the linebackers will find the ball and cover". My translation: They are fat dumb, and happy with the defensive line, but they are NOT happy with the linebacker play. And it fits perfectly with the moves that are being made this offseason. He was asked what his impressions were about Aaron Rogers and Alex Smith. He said that he hasn't studied them, since "we won't be picking quarterback high in the draft". Then he was asked to rate the running backs 1,2, 3. He laughed and said, "you guys get paid to ask questions, I get paid to NOT answer them". But his further comments indicated that he has done a LOT of studying on these guys. "Ronny Brown weighs 230, and faster. Cadillac is 210, about as fast, but more elusive, while Cedric Benson is not as fast, but more durable, a runner that get stronger in the 4th quarter, like Eddie George in his prime". Asked about the tight-end situation. He said, This year is a "very bad" draft for tight ends. But added, "we drafted a very good tight end two years ago, Bennie Joppru, who has been hurt the last two years, and hasn't been able to play for us. He got healthy late last season, but at the time we didn't have roster spot open for him. But now, he's healthy and working out, and we expect him to participate and make a contribution in 2005." And finally, he was asked if the effort to land Orlando Pace was knock against Seth Wand. "Not at all, in fact we're very pleased with the play with both Seth and Chester Pitts. But when you have a chance to try to get an Orlando Pace, you make the effort. "Asked about OL in the draft, he did mention Alex Barron, and only him, indicating to me that Barron is his top O lineman on the board. But from the entire jist of the interview, I'd say linebacker is the position that he and Capers are looking at in the draft. And again, this fits right in with what they've done so far. Last edited by Marcus; 03-17-2005 at 10:16 AM. |
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Thanks for the re-cap..... its appreciated.
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Thanks Marcus. Sums up much of the drivel I have been spewing lately
Perhaps people will start believing me about my Joppru comments now.
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Great report Marcus. Kudos.
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I really appreciate you taking the time to fill us in
You're right, our offseason moves make more sense now...I think this may give a little insight into what our 1st round pick may be...Probably Merriman if he falls a little, Barron, Ronnie B., Cadillac, or Benson, but then again, it's always smoke and mirrors with Charley...I would've liked to get his opinion on some of the CBs, too... |
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And yes, it would have interesting to hear how much he has "studied" the CBs as well, much less the linebackers. I know he wouldn't have publicly rated them, but it would have been interested to hear his view on the differences. |
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Thanks a lot for posting that, it is great to get recaps.
I think it is very interesting that he has been studying the RBs so much, I dont think I would be happy with us taking a RB int he first round.
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Marcus, thanks for the recap. Did he say anything more than what you summarized about the RB's that made you think he had really been studying them? The quotes you have there could be gleened from 5 minutes of internet draft site review.
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I would just like to note that it was wonderful to see CC stating Joppru will contribute this year.
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But when the subject of running backs came up, he went into this long speil about their differences. Which indicates to me that he's been 'studying' them, and if he's doing that, then he's got his scouts looking at them, so . . . ![]() EDIT: Now, I do remember something. he noted that both Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams both ran 4.4s in the 40 at the combine, for which he said, "That's unheard of." Last edited by Marcus; 03-17-2005 at 11:26 AM. |
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Thanks for taking the time to post a recap of the interview Marcus. I still think CC will draft a cb and then possibly move up for another "tweener" or DL. Just like last year.
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If Benson, Cadillac, or Ronnie Brown fell to us at 13, do you think we would take them? Edit - Vinny answered my question as I asked it. I think we would jump all over any of these three. I think one of them might fall to us. |
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I think one of the three is going to fall, simply because there isn't that much of a demand for RBs at the top of the draft...Miami will take one, Tampa might, and the Cards might...If either Tampa or Arizona doesn't draft a RB, it is likely one of the three will still be on the board at 13, and I think it will probably be Benson...He doesn't seem to fit into Tampa's or Arizona's scheme as much as Ronnie and Cadillac do...If Miami doesn't take Benson at 2, he could easily slide to 13...If I'm the Texans, I take him in a heartbeat...
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Without a doubt. They would easily be the best players left on the board. |
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The problem I have with taking a RB early is that we have more pressing needs than a RB. We have a guy that has rushed for over 1000 the last two seasons and doesnt look like he is slowing down at all. If we can get our line playing at a decent level there is no telling what he will be able to do. We also have capable backups that filled in nicely when Dom went down last year. I think we need to look at defense in the first round.
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I know this will not happen...but if benson and DJ are still available at #13 who should we pick. IMO DJ would contribute more to the D than benson would to the O.
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