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Old 08-16-2010   #1
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Default Evidence: Slaton potentially re-injures neck

While doing my film study for Texans Bull Blog I noticed what potentially may be breaking news about Steve Slaton's health. I have video screen shots showing a severe collision to his head and neck prior to the fumble on the goal line. You can also see what appears to be him wincing his hand trying to regain feeling followed by favoring his right arm as he walks off the field.

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While doing my film study for Texans Bull Blog I noticed what potentially may be breaking news about Steve Slaton's health. I have video screen shots showing a severe collision to his head and neck prior to the fumble on the goal line. You can also see what appears to be him wincing his hand trying to regain feeling followed by favoring his right arm as he walks off the field.

Check it out and let us know what you think.

http://www.texansbullblog.com/eviden...ardinals/news/

Barrett did a great job capturing this with pictures. However, I suggest anyone with the game on DVR should start watching the drive with about 7 minutes to go in the second quarter. His head snapped back severely!
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Default Re: Evidence: Slaton potentially re-injures neck

I sure hope you guys are wrong. It could have been a stinger, or maybe a little apprehension. I hope he is smart enough that if he did re-injure it, he does not try to play more with it. That's too scary.
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Default Re: Evidence: Slaton potentially re-injures neck

I've never wanted to be more wrong about anything. It's certainly not ideal to speculate from the TV but there are certainly signs that would suggest something happened.

And Dale is right, watch the video live it really shows how violently his head snaps back.
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I am going to pretend I never read this thread.
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I've never wanted to be more wrong about anything. It's certainly not ideal to speculate from the TV but there are certainly signs that would suggest something happened.

And Dale is right, watch the video live it really shows how violently his head snaps back.
He looked shaken to me on a couple of plays. There are some "suspicious" injury-associated body positionings that support your premise. What I noticed in that play is there appeared to be helmet-to-helmet contact. But, even more telling than the hard-to-interpret still shots of his arm positions, is his backpedalling/fallback right after contact. Watch how he is trying to shake off his right arm that then immediately thereafter goes hanging limp as he is falling back. Tell me what you see.
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He looked shaken to me on a couple of plays. There are some "suspicious" injury-associated body positionings that support your premise. What I noticed in that play is there appeared to be helmet-to-helmet contact. But, even more telling than the hard-to-interpret still shots of his arm positions, is his backpedalling/fallback right after contact. Watch how he is trying to shake off his right arm that then immediately thereafter goes hanging limp as he is falling back. Tell me what you see.
That's about right... On the initial hit, his head whip-lashed straight backwards (hard!) and pretty far. Then, after the fumble, he was on all fours.. then, he picked his right hand off the ground, shook his fingers, and then rubbed then together. As he stood up, the arm dangled rather motionless by his side as he walked to the sidelines.
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Default Re: Evidence: Slaton potentially re-injures neck

Just not good... Not good at all.

Foster better be the real deal. It was going to be running back by committee to a certain degree, now its getting to just running back. the committee is gone.
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I think it was just a stinger.
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Default Re: Evidence: Slaton potentially re-injures neck

So, if you guys are right, this is pretty much the end of the road for him huh?

Hopefully we are just overreacting. Not only for his career, but for his life outside of football.
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I think it was just a stinger.
It certainly could be. I want to make it clear that we are not trying to diagnose him with an injury but rather point out that it's a possibility. I would imagine a stinger would yield similar results but it's certainly plossible that his recently repaired spinal chord could have been effected to create similar simptoms.

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So, if you guys are right, this is pretty much the end of the road for him huh?

Hopefully we are just overreacting. Not only for his career, but for his life outside of football.
The end of his career is certainly heavy speculation. If he can't take the hits without suffering from numbness and in turn fumbling it could be a problem as he moves forward though.
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So, if you guys are right, this is pretty much the end of the road for him huh?

Hopefully we are just overreacting. Not only for his career, but for his life outside of football.
We aren't suggesting that. We just noticed what happened and became concerned about it. Doing research on the injury/surgery (click on those links early in the article), there is some real level of risk that could force him to shut it down indefinitely...
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Is this just a subliminal message to get us to click on the google ad for Lumbar Spine Surgery?
haha, talk to the robots that are stalking your train of thought about that one.
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Not good news at all.
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While doing my film study for Texans Bull Blog I noticed what potentially may be breaking news about Steve Slaton's health. I have video screen shots showing a severe collision to his head and neck prior to the fumble on the goal line. You can also see what appears to be him wincing his hand trying to regain feeling followed by favoring his right arm as he walks off the field.

Check it out and let us know what you think.

http://www.texansbullblog.com/eviden...ardinals/news/
Which is why he dropped the ball.

He didn't WANT to drop the ball, but the effects of the hit forced him to do so. It's like when you get a charlie horse in your calf and you jerk your leg and contort it out of the pain: You don't WANT to react a certain way, but it just happens. It's involuntary. It happens. On its own.

I mean, I'm no expert here...but at some point you've got to say that things are not normal. All of his actions after the hit lead me to believe that his ability to control his arms and hands is jacked up when he's hit certain ways.

He's busting his ass out there. He's TRYING his hardest to hold onto the ball, but he gets whacked just right and all bets are off.

Man, this is really really potentially BAD for him.
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When I saw the hit the first time I was concerned about the way his arm moved when it popped out. I came here to look for injury news and didn't see any. Either way though, this could be very bad for our guy.

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Bring on Jeremiah Johnson to backup Foster. If Slaton cannot go, put Henry as the #3. We may need to scour the PS and grab another back.

If Slaton is potentially hurt, I would like to remind everyone that last year Doc CND, was saying that he was not sure Slaton would be completely healed this fast and if he was, he may have a chance of reinjury (or something to that effect). So give the man credit for obviously being very VERY good at his job!
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He also just holds on to the ball with one arm.
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He also just holds on to the ball with one arm.
IIRC, he was covering it up and got popped. Then I remember seeing his body kind of go rigid and his arms opened up.

It makes total sense now. He didn't drop the ball because his arms got hit. He dropped the ball because of the chain reaction: Hit to head, spinal area reacts, then it travels down to the arms. Then all the visible reactions Slaton exhibited after the play ended.

If this is all true, then they can't let him continue out there. Just my opinion, which obviously is not a professional one. I just have a feeling that an isolated play can tell a lot, based on prior known problems. The guy isn't being careless.

Unless his actions are a cop-out to escape taking responsibility for the fumble. Sort of an "Oh crap, I better shake my head, stumble a bit, and act like my hands are tingling..." I am not saying he would do that, but it's gotta' be one or the other IMO.
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