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Old 03-15-2005   #81
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...according to Carlton Thompson on 590 the fan in STL
I heard that interview, also. He was voicing his opinion more than relaying information. It's not like Thompson has real good sources with the Texans. He didn't break the Pace story & didn't he state that JJ Moses was certain to be cut prior to the season opener? I'll wait for a credible source before believing what the Texans will or won't do.
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I forgot Wand is from Missouri. I'm sure y'all would love to have him "come home".
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The guys on 610 am this morning were speculating that Pitts would look like a pro-bowler at LG if he wasn't worried about assisting weak players on each side of him.

Ses, isn't the deadline 3 pm Wednesday?

"The guys on 610" are so anti-Wand that they don't even realize the Texans scheme rarely had Pitts helping Wand. The Texans had Wand one on one while pass blocking almost all the time.

I guess if he was a frequent guest on their show he'd be much better on the field - in their opinion.
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I most certainly don't think the Texans are dumb for pursuing Pace. But why do Texans fans think it is dumb to compensate the Rams with 2 1st Rounders? If he's that good - and he is - and he'll get you to the playoffs (no big deal for you guys?), then give them up.

Personally, I'd much rather have this year's 1st Rounder, a 3rd this year, and Wand, but its not up to me.
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I most certainly don't think the Texans are dumb for pursuing Pace. But why do Texans fans think it is dumb to compensate the Rams with 2 1st Rounders? If he's that good - and he is - and he'll get you to the playoffs (no big deal for you guys?), then give them up.
Our team has a long term plan. Mortgaging the future for a chance right now may is one way to manage the salary cap/free agency era, but it's not the Texans' way.
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"The guys on 610" are so anti-Wand that they don't even realize the Texans scheme rarely had Pitts helping Wand. The Texans had Wand one on one while pass blocking almost all the time.
I think Lance has a clue that Guards and Tackles help each other. His Dad (or someone close in his family) is a NFL O-Line coach.
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I most certainly don't think the Texans are dumb for pursuing Pace. But why do Texans fans think it is dumb to compensate the Rams with 2 1st Rounders? If he's that good - and he is - and he'll get you to the playoffs (no big deal for you guys?), then give them up.

Personally, I'd much rather have this year's 1st Rounder, a 3rd this year, and Wand, but its not up to me.
Dont get me wrong, I know Pace is an extraordinary player. But do you realize just how much 2 first round picks are?

I think a fair offer would be Wand, our #13 pick, and a 3rd round pick.
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How did I contradict myself?
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The guys on 610 am this morning were speculating that Pitts would look like a pro-bowler at LG if he wasn't worried about assisting weak players on each side of him.

I think that's the best part of this deal. We'd pick up two Pro Bowlers for the price of one. Pace is and will be a Pro Bowler in his own right, but if Pitts is allowed to concentrate on his duties and responsibilities and not have to worry about helping Pace or McKinney he'd be a Pro Bowler as well. Even with Pace our OLine troubles are still there as long as McKinney is the starting C, but I think the Texans are going to try and address that position as well.
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How did I contradict myself?
From what I can see you did not.
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if we land Pace not only will the passing game be better the running game would benifit as well. opposing defences will drop back for the pass which will open lanes for DD.


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How did I contradict myself?
You said we are dumb for pursuing him but then you boast about his talent and say we should pay the price for him. If he's that good we can't be that dumb. It seems you're arguing both sides.
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You said we are dumb for pursuing him but then you boast about his talent and say we should pay the price for him. If he's that good we can't be that dumb. It seems you're arguing both sides.

My apologies I misread.
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Team-Sports thinks we should pay two 1st rounders for Pace. He goes on to say he personally would prefer our 2005 1st and 3rd, as well as Seth Wand.

Clearly he thinks:
2006 1st < 2005 3rd + Seth Wand

He isn't contridicting himself. He is merely saying that we should pay AT LEAST the equivalent of two 1st rounders. He views his proposal with Wand as more valuable than that.

I hope we don't use two 1st rounders (or their equivalent) to get this done. I could live with trading a 1st and Wade or Wand, though, or a 1st and a 3rd.
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You said we are dumb for pursuing him but then you boast about his talent and say we should pay the price for him. If he's that good we can't be that dumb. It seems you're arguing both sides.

No, he specifically said that he did not think the Texans we're dumb for pursuing Pace.
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if we land Pace not only will the passing game be better the running game would benifit as well. opposing defences will drop back for the pass which will open lanes for DD.


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So when does anyone think we are going to get a decision on what St. Louis is going to do? I know tomorrow is the deadline but I wonder when we'll get an indication of something you know?
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i wish we could hurry and get this done so i can go buy his new Texans jersey :woot
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I'm guessing we don't hear anything until tomorrow.
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