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Old 03-15-2005   #181
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I can't say I am overly disappointed. The price was too high even if he was a free agent signing (we had to give nothing).

Too many of the sacks last year came from rushes straight up the middle and then from Carr's inability to step up in the pocket.
Maybe it is McKinney, but I think fixing Weigerts position drastically improves the line. When Weigert was out his backups were ABUSED.

Wand and Pitts run blocking was adequate and should be substantially improved with a year under their belts.

Spend the money on defense. Defense wins Championships. Reference the colts and all the money and 1st round picks they have spent on offense. They can roll it up in the regular season but fall on their face in the playoffs.
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Old 03-15-2005   #182
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I honestly did not want to pay Pace $50+ million but 30 is not old for an OL. Marco Rivera was older when he started his Pro-Bowl visits. Does anyone remember Bruce Matthews. He was old and still great. If there is a position other than K/P that a player can play into his late 30s, it's the O-Line. If he is that slow now, we could have even moved him in to G and then moved Pitts out to T.

I might be overthinking this though.
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I can't say I am overly disappointed. The price was too high even if he was a free agent signing (we had to give nothing).

Too many of the sacks last year came from rushes straight up the middle and then from Carr's inability to step up in the pocket.
Maybe it is McKinney, but I think fixing Weigerts position drastically improves the line. When Weigert was out his backups were ABUSED.

Wand and Pitts run blocking was adequate and should be substantially improved with a year under their belts.

Spend the money on defense. Defense wins Championships. Reference the colts and all the money and 1st round picks they have spent on offense. They can roll it up in the regular season but fall on their face in the playoffs.
If this line (which we are now stuck with again) continues to suck at pass protect.... and Carr continues to run for his life. I think you might rethink this Pace situation next year.
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The line Pace played on gave up more sacks than our line. Pace alone does not fix the problem.
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They also had more than 100 more passing attempts while giving up one more sack than us. 471 to 580
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Thats 9.6 attempts per sack for the Texans...

and 11.6 for the Rams.
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Time to move on and get back into draft mode.
Absolutely. What would we have done over the next month and a half
without having the Draft to kick around ? And it's not the same being in the Draft if you don't have a first round pick. Actually I'm kinda relieved, I could
see giving up the one and maybe a 3, but that's it. Definitely not the 1 and 2
and there was discussion to give up 2 ones - wow, I'm relieved nothing like that happened ! Bring on the Draft !
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It might have been nice to have Pace on the team but I didn't want us to sell out our future for it. I never like the idea of giving up draft picks, much less a first rounder + others. Oh, well. The Mysterious "THEY" say it takes an offensive lineman time to get up to the pro level play wise, so maybe our young linemen will yet turn into all pros.
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Absolutely. What would we have done over the next month and a half
without having the Draft to kick around ? And it's not the same being in the Draft if you don't have a first round pick. Actually I'm kinda relieved, I could
see giving up the one and maybe a 3, but that's it. Definitely not the 1 and 2
and there was discussion to give up 2 ones - wow, I'm relieved nothing like that happened ! Bring on the Draft !

The draft would have been boring for sure. But opening day seeing Pace run out of that tunnel would have been extremely awesome. Though for the right price.
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Thats 9.6 attempts per sack for the Texans...

and 11.6 for the Rams.
I knew that was coming. Somehow I don't think we would be pleased with our line play at 11.6 attempts per sack. Would we ?
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I knew that was coming. Somehow I don't think we would be pleased with our line play at 11.6 attempts per sack. Would we ?
Outside of Pace, the Rams line is garbage. Pace is one of the 10 best players in the entire NFL.
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are you trying to prove a point, here?
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I knew that was coming. Somehow I don't think we would be pleased with our line play at 11.6 attempts per sack. Would we ?
Did Pace play all 5 O-line positions at the same time for the Rams? They have had ORT problems off and on for a few years, even when Kyle Turley was in there. There is no doubt that Pace would have helped our line.
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I knew that was coming. Somehow I don't think we would be pleased with our line play at 11.6 attempts per sack. Would we ?
Well I bet Carr for one would have liked 41 sacks instead of 49--still not great but a lot better.
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We were used. Oh well, it happens.
Agree, but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
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I've Got GOOD News and BAD NEWS

The GOOD News - You'll Still Get to See Pace Play.

The BAD News - You'll Get to See Pace Play.



He used you guys. Do you feel cheap? Violated?
Shame on OP.
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I've Got GOOD News and BAD NEWS

The GOOD News - You'll Still Get to See Pace Play.

The BAD News - You'll Get to See Pace Play.



He used you guys. Do you feel cheap? Violated?
Shame on OP.
Man, I can tell you aren't the life of a party...your jokes aren't even funny...even if you're a rams fan.

Pace did play us, but he also played the Rams by doing it...yeah you get him back, but what exactly does that get you? another loss to the Eagles in the 2nd round?
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Pace did play us, but he also played the Rams by doing it...
He sure did. Have fun in cap hell soon Team-Sport.
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I don't think we got used, you're the ones that got stuck with the $51 million price tag. LOL. Now are your fans singing about how overrated and fat he is?
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I don't think we got used, you're the ones that got stuck with the $51 million price tag. LOL. Now are your fans singing about how overrated and fat he is?
Haha, they are singing about how he is the best LT in the NFL, and how he holds that team together. But when contract negotiations go out the door, he is the fattest slob in the world, and needs to get his fat *** out of st louis because hes just an OT
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