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Old 07-21-2010   #1
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Default RBs if successful could lead to controversy?

Most of us seem excited about the possibilities of having a very good running game and have mentioned the areas of improvement a quality back can impact. Greater protection of QB, not just blocking but offering an avenue to get rid of the ball safely without suffering a fumble or injury. We all saw what a healthy Matt can do. A quality back makes the offensive line better and many of us are aware of this suspect area. A running game opens up the passing game and historically that has been Kubiak's philosophy. A quality back can keep the opposing offense off the field and also our defense; allowing our players to be stronger late in game. Over all, a quality back pays huge dividends, especially when the other backs on the roster were not doing very well.

My question is if Tate, Slaton or Foster or all meet expectations giving us at least one (and maybe three) quality backs, how will fans react? Of course all will be excited and pleased. Will we let bygones be bygones and the lack of a recently successfull RB (one year of Slaton is noted) slowly fade from our memory or will we burn with anger and maybe disgust that Kubes and Smith did not do all they could to bring this important part of the chess board to the table two drafts ago?

We have touched on this in other threads but if we have a very much improved running game (ala Schaub over David Carr) as the season progresses will fans question Kubiak's decision making in this regard?
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*prays to football gods that all RB's are healthy by game 1.*
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*prays to football gods that all RB's are healthy by game 1.*
Sure but what do you think about my topic? Will fans gripe like they did when Schaub became a very good player compared to Carr or just be glad RBs are doing well?
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Sure but what do you think about my topic? Will fans gripe like they did when Schaub became a very good player compared to Carr or just be glad RBs are doing well?
I thought the controversy you might be referring to was possible discontent over snaps between those 3. In that case, I don't think you can have enough good RBs on your roster. They'll all get touches and if they all 3 do prove to be effective you can bet we'll be running the ball a lot more.

And I'd be more than happy if we have griping fans, if that means we're running the ball well its a worthy trade.
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I would love some controversy at the RB position.
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Sure but what do you think about my topic? Will fans gripe like they did when Schaub became a very good player compared to Carr or just be glad RBs are doing well?
If the RBs are successful I would venture to guess that we are winning more games. Why would fans complain about winning after so many years of losing/mediocrity?
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Everybody is getting the right amount of carries, catches, passes when we are winning. When a team starts loosing, that’s when we start trying to figure out who should have take a couple more carries here and there, and who’s not getting targeted enough on 3rd and long. There will be fan favorites right of the chute of course, but if the coaching staff makes the right decisions and the 3 headed monster emerges, there will be little to complain about.
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I'm not sure people are actually reading the OP for comprehension...
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Ah....yes, I think we would be angry that we didn't have a solid RB core before now. I think they got what they were looking for out of Slaton when they drafted him, and took it in the man region when he didn't produce last season. Keeping old wornout/injured RB's like they had been doing on the roster still blows my mind. Hopefully with this batch of RBs the worm will turn.
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I can't be angry at them trying something and failing when overall they have consitently improved the team. It seems as if they have learned from some of their past mistakes as well.

I'd be happy we had production from that spot, not upset because they didn't solve it earlier.
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*prays to football gods that all RB's are healthy by game 1.*

I hope we break the curse, but somehow, even with only limited talent, every year we have fallen to the prey of "natural selection." If all three survive camp, preseason and regular season.....and perform well.......I think we just might be able to overcome the new "curse of too good and too plentiful."
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Texans run the ball to set-up the pass or pass the ball to set-up the run? teams will be more confused because Texans offense has some balance to it along with emerging playmakers
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For obvious reasons, RB's have the shortest shelf life of all players. So in building a team through the draft, theoretically it should one of the last positions that get a wave of attention like RB has had this past year and a half or so. They really focused on getting talented guys in the trenches, mainly on D but it's hard to ignore the 1st round pick, 2 3rd round picks and 2 6th round picks set to start again next year for the OL, much less the slew of mid round TEs to bookend the OL.

The front 7 on D has a #1, #10, #15 1st rounders, 2 2nd rounders, a 3rd, a couple 4th round LBers, a 5th (if Okam makes the team), and a 7th to go with a big FA signing and a few smaller gap filling type signings.

It isn't real hard to see how the team has been built. DL/OL/LB get the bulk of the high round picks, TE, DT, WR, CB have dominated the lower rounds with a RB here and a S there just for kicks.

In short, no, I don't think anyone will be upset if we turn out a 1,200 yard rusher. And hell, with the turn around at RB (on paper anyway)....maybe signs of other extremely weak positions getting run like....FREE ****ING SAFETY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My question is if Tate, Slaton or Foster or all meet expectations giving us at least one (and maybe three) quality backs, how will fans react? Of course all will be excited and pleased. Will we let bygones be bygones and the lack of a recently successfull RB (one year of Slaton is noted) slowly fade from our memory or will we burn with anger and maybe disgust that Kubes and Smith did not do all they could to bring this important part of the chess board to the table two drafts ago?
Fans will be overjoyed at the advent of a running game, and the only thing that would be worth griping about is who gets the lions share of the carries. No way do we have 3 running backs that get 100 carries and 500 yards for the season. That'd just be weird.
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I'm not sure people are actually reading the OP for comprehension...
I think everyone was in shock at the prospect of an effective running game.

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Fans will be overjoyed at the advent of a running game, and the only thing that would be worth griping about is who gets the lions share of the carries. No way do we have 3 running backs that get 100 carries and 500 yards for the season. That'd just be weird.
Me too, I'd be happy to forgive & forget if the Texans can finally get it together. Even a mediocre running game to complement our passing game could make the Texans a top 4 in the AFC team.
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Fans will be overjoyed at the advent of a running game, and the only thing that would be worth griping about is who gets the lions share of the carries. No way do we have 3 running backs that get 100 carries and 500 yards for the season. That'd just be weird.
that's only about 3.0 yards per carry, even below historic average of 3.875 yards per carry & 1661 total yards rushing per season
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I'll just be happy about seeing some production out of the running game finnally.
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If the RBs are successful I would venture to guess that we are winning more games. Why would fans complain about winning after so many years of losing/mediocrity?
Yes, I think fans would complain. We quickly adjust to "good times" and find things to ***** about. Looking at my own point of view, I was very upset a RB was not drafted two drafts ago and if Tate is successfull as I think he will be, I will wonder how much better last season would have gone with a good back in the back field. It would have proven my point, that Kubes should call me for advice. lol
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Most of us seem excited about the possibilities of having a very good running game and have mentioned the areas of improvement a quality back can impact. Greater protection of QB, not just blocking but offering an avenue to get rid of the ball safely without suffering a fumble or injury. We all saw what a healthy Matt can do. A quality back makes the offensive line better and many of us are aware of this suspect area. A running game opens up the passing game and historically that has been Kubiak's philosophy. A quality back can keep the opposing offense off the field and also our defense; allowing our players to be stronger late in game. Over all, a quality back pays huge dividends, especially when the other backs on the roster were not doing very well.

My question is if Tate, Slaton or Foster or all meet expectations giving us at least one (and maybe three) quality backs, how will fans react? Of course all will be excited and pleased. Will we let bygones be bygones and the lack of a recently successfull RB (one year of Slaton is noted) slowly fade from our memory or will we burn with anger and maybe disgust that Kubes and Smith did not do all they could to bring this important part of the chess board to the table two drafts ago?

We have touched on this in other threads but if we have a very much improved running game (ala Schaub over David Carr) as the season progresses will fans question Kubiak's decision making in this regard?
Well with Kubiak's bone headed decisions to play Green and Brown over the last two seasons, I'd probably expect that to happen. Hell, Kubes didn't even want to play Foster until the end of last season.

However, I don't think this is going to be anything to worry about. I think this will be a good problem to have. I think that all of these guys will be effective RB's.
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The pessimistic ones will complain.

Most of us will be hoping a praying for a Carolina Panthers type rushing attack.
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