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Old 07-16-2010   #1
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GREEN BAY, Wis. -- The NFL has suspended Green Bay Packers defensive tackle Johnny Jolly without pay for the upcoming season and perhaps beyond for violating the league's substance abuse policy.

The league says Jolly's suspension begins immediately and will continue through at least the 2010 season. He will be eligible to apply for reinstatement after the Super Bowl.

Jolly is facing drug charges in Houston after his July 2008 arrest outside a club allegedly for illegally possessing at least 200 grams of codeine. If convicted, Jolly faces up to 20 years in prison.
Well, I guess I can't make fun of Longhorns and their drug problems anymore...

One less Aggie in the NFL

Good thing the Packers drafted BJ Raji last year.
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That's a pretty big blow, but I think the Pack saw it coming...
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Looks like it's an "indefinite" suspension.

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When news of Packers defensive end Johnny Jolly's indefinite suspension broke Friday, we assumed the ban was related to Jolly's pending drug trial. Jolly is accused of numerous offenses that essentially paint him as a drug kingpin in the Houston area. So it seemed likely that Jolly had violated the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy.


NFL Network's Jason La Canfora, however, reports that Jolly was suspended not for a conduct code violation, but for breaking the league's rules against substance abuse. La Canfora's report leaves the door open for Jolly's suspension to stem from something unrelated to his court case. Like one or more failed drug tests.


Therefore, the indefinite ban figures to be continued beyond this season if, in addition to violating the NFL's Substance Abuse Policy, Jolly is convicted of what Texas prosecutors have alleged and is thus found to be in violation of the Personal Conduct Policy.


La Canfora wondered aloud on Twitter whether "this is the end for Jolly in the NFL."


ESPN's Michael Smith reported Friday afternoon on NFL Live that Jolly will have the opportunity to appeal his suspension following Super Bowl XLV.
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So Jolly, a starting Packer, gets busted with purple drank 2 years ago with little to no media coverage and the league does nothing. Now an out of work player (Russell) gets busted with it and the media has a field day; which leads to Jolly's suspension. For some reason, the scales of justice don't seem quite level to me.

I'm not saying what Jolly did was right, but what the league didn't do is wrong too.
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So Jolly, a starting Packer, gets busted with purple drank 2 years ago with little to no media coverage and the league does nothing. Now an out of work player (Russell) gets busted with it and the media has a field day; which leads to Jolly's suspension. For some reason, the scales of justice don't seem quite level to me.

I'm not saying what Jolly did was right, but what the league didn't do is wrong too.
When you say "what the league didn't do", what are you referring to?
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So Jolly, a starting Packer, gets busted with purple drank 2 years ago with little to no media coverage and the league does nothing. Now an out of work player (Russell) gets busted with it and the media has a field day; which leads to Jolly's suspension. For some reason, the scales of justice don't seem quite level to me.

I'm not saying what Jolly did was right, but what the league didn't do is wrong too.
Why are you saying the Russell suspension led to the Jolly suspension?
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Why are you saying the Russell suspension led to the Jolly suspension?
To the best of my knowledge, there is no Russell suspension (at least not yet).
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To the best of my knowledge, there is no Russell suspension (at least not yet).
Sorry, I meant Russell arrest and media coverage.
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Jolly

I hope that purple drank was good.

It sure will make your wallet lean.
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I hope that purple drank was good.

It sure will make your wallet lean.
I see what you did there....
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To the best of my knowledge, there is no Russell suspension (at least not yet).
Tough to be suspended from a league you aren't part of.
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Tough to be suspended from a league you aren't part of.
Tell that to Lendale White.
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Tell that to Lendale White.
What you talkin' 'bout Willis?

Edit - OK I get it but White tested positive while with a team. Russell didn't fail a league test. He was arrested while not employed by the league.
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What you talkin' 'bout Willis?

Edit - OK I get it but White tested positive while with a team. Russell didn't fail a league test. He was arrested while not employed by the league.
He's not employed by a team, but he is still considered an active league player.
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He's not employed by a team, but he is still considered an active league player.
His rights are now owned by the Omaha UFL team. So if anything, he will sign with them, but after the codeine incident he may not even get a contract from them.

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His rights are now owned by the Omaha UFL team. So if anything, he will sign with them, but after the codeine incident he may not even get a contract from them.

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That's correct, and it's got nothing to do with his NFL status, unless and until Jamarcus Russell and the Omaha UFL team mutually agree otherwise.
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When you say "what the league didn't do", what are you referring to?
The league has made it clear to everybody that the law of the state isn't league law. Basically, whether or not you are found guilty of an action by the state, the mere insinuation of an action that that violates the leagues moral conduct code or drug rules can get you suspended immediately. Jolly sat around for two years because the league didn't want to admit that many of its players were performing a new illegal act that the public didn't for the most part know about.

Now that the media has plastered the illegality of Purple Drank all over newspapers, ESPN and talk radio, the league makes an example of Jolly who should have been dealt with 2 years ago.
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There is definite need for having and enforcing a personal conduct policy. But there also should be consistency of application. The policy has evolved but the enforcement has been all over the place.


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And it wasn't always this way. When Goodell as NFL commissioner unveiled his personal conduct policy in 2007, it was new, needed, even noble. The policy read, and I quote, "It will be considered conduct detrimental [for league personnel] to engage in ... violent and/or criminal activity." The policy went on to describe the line in the sand that could not be crossed, and that line was this: an arrest or a legal charge. A player didn't have to be convicted of a crime to be suspended; he had to be "arrested or charged," a phrase that appeared three times in the conduct policy.

And I loved it. The court system can take forever, and legal finagling often reduces charges to unrecognizable, even negligible levels. For example, domestic battery is often reduced to disturbing the peace, and a DUI arrest can be pleaded down to reckless driving. Goodell can't suspend a guy for disturbing the peace or for reckless friggin' driving, so he goes after the original charge. And we should understand. Tank Johnson and Pacman Jones were charged with all sorts of heinous crimes, and Goodell hammered them. Before all the lawyer wrangling, there was plenty of legal smoke, so Goodell brought the fire. Good for him, and good for his cynical but smart line in the sand.

But in recent weeks, Goodell has moved that line. Where did he move it? He moved it toward Salem, Mass. He moved it somewhere scary:

It's no longer necessary that there be enough evidence of "violent and/or criminal activity" for police to make an arrest or file charges. Nope. Now, an accusation is enough.

Goodell's new line in the sand was outlined in a memo leaked last week, a memo that reads, and I quote: "Every investigation, arrest, or other allegation of improper conduct ... threatens the continued success of our brand."

See that? An arrest is no longer needed. Forget about a conviction. Now, an "allegation" will do.
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Johnny Jolly Charged With Possession Again

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Trouble brews for Houston native Johnny Jolly once again. The defensive end, who was suspended from the Green Bay Packers for felony drug charges in 2008, was arrested in Houston early Friday morning.

Houston police stopped Jollyís Cadillac Escalade for a traffic violation at 12:45 a.m. on the 9900 block of Westpark. Jolly presented a state identification card rather than a driverís license, and police learned that his license is suspended and is not eligible for renewal.

While searching the vehicle, police discovered that Jolly was in possession of 600 grams of Codeine, which is a felony charge. Police also discovered another unidentified substance, which has been sent in for testing.At this time, it is unknown if the amount of controlled substances found in Jollyís vehicle could be heavy enough to be considered for charges of possession with intent to distribute.

Jolly, a three-time all-district defensive lineman at Forest Brook High School in Houston, attended Texas A&M and became a starting defensive tackle. The Packers selected Jolly in the sixth round of the 2006 NFL Draft.
Johnny Jolly: "You've got it all wrong. That's my favorite paper weight!"
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